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Old 06-06-2010, 21:55   #1
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what is the best .40 s&w SD load for the g22

Im looking for opinions from those with more experience with glocks and .40 sw in general. In my own opinion i feel that the 165gr speer gold dots, 165gr winchester ranger and the 180gr Federal loads are 3 of the best SD loads for the .40 sw. Looking for info and insight from others.
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Old 06-06-2010, 22:23   #2
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155gr Gold Dot fan here. But my second favorite is the 165gr Gold Dot.
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Old 06-06-2010, 22:27   #3
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Old 06-06-2010, 23:03   #4
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Don Glock has me wanting to go and search for the PDX1's right now. As for the federal HST loads, I have only found them in 9mm and .45acp. In SC you can find the speer gold dots at any gun store. Mainly the ones that cater to LE or the ones that sale guns and gun supplies only. But i too agree with the 165gr speer GDs. good stuff. Yet to have tried the 155gr, but i feel more comfortable with the heavier loads.
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Old 06-06-2010, 23:21   #5
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Don Glock has me wanting to go and search for the PDX1's right now. As for the federal HST loads, I have only found them in 9mm and .45acp. In SC you can find the speer gold dots at any gun store. Mainly the ones that cater to LE or the ones that sale guns and gun supplies only. But i too agree with the 165gr speer GDs. good stuff. Yet to have tried the 155gr, but i feel more comfortable with the heavier loads.
you're lucky! i've never found HST's in .45!
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Old 06-06-2010, 23:30   #6
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Im looking for opinions from those with more experience with glocks and .40 sw in general. In my own opinion i feel that the 165gr speer gold dots, 165gr winchester ranger and the 180gr Federal loads are 3 of the best SD loads for the .40 sw. Looking for info and insight from others.

If it makes you feel any better, I have a blood relative that works for the
DEA. He's issued 165grn speer gold dots for his Sig 229. What ever
make of pistol is irrelevant, It's the cartridge that makes the difference,
whether It's Glock, Sig or what ever.
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Old 06-07-2010, 00:32   #7
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AR15.com has a really good ammo faq in their handgun ammo forum. They recommend they following loads for sd:

  • Barnes all-copper bullets (140 & 155gr) loaded by: Cor-Bon (DPX40140)
  • Winchester Ranger 180gr JHP (RA40T)
  • Winchester Ranger 165gr JHP (RA40TA)
  • Winchester Partition Gold 165gr JHP (RA401P)
  • Winchester Bonded 180gr JHP (Q4355)
  • Speer Gold Dot 155gr JHP (53961)
  • Speer Gold Dot 180gr JHP (53962)
  • Federal Tactical 165gr JHP (LE40T3)
  • Federal Tactical 180gr JHP (LE40T1)
  • Federal HST 180gr JHP (P40HST1)
  • Remington Golden Saber 180 gr JHP (GS40SWB) (this is what I carry)
http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Self_De....htm#.40%20S&W
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Old 06-07-2010, 03:34   #8
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155gr Gold Dot fan here. But my second favorite is the 165gr Gold Dot.
This would get my vote as well.
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Old 06-07-2010, 07:08   #9
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Another round I can barely find in .40 sw, the Ranger T 180gr and 165 gr. Tried the a couple 155gr'ers from a friends box andd they had noticeably more kick than the heaver loads. But as far as the speer Gold Dots go you can never go wrong with the 165gr. But if my knowledge is true, are the 155gr Gold Dots the ones that come in the 50 box?
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depends on what you realistically expect to encounter.

for police work a mid to heavy weight 165-180 gr. would be best.

for just private citizen ccw a 135-140 gr. would give you plenty of punch without over penetration potential...

all depends on what your real or percieved needs are.
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Old 06-07-2010, 07:50   #11
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I have a G22 and a G27. I prefer Hornady Critical Defense 165gr and or Ranger SXT-T Series 165gr. Both are very wicked SD rounds. Federal HST's are a good choice too.
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Old 06-07-2010, 07:55   #12
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Well, my certain department issues the 165gr Speer. Put it this way, the last 5 officer involved shootings there has been no court cases. There was even a windshield involved that didn't bother the round any.

My vote will always be with the 165gr Speer .40
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Well, my certain department issues the 165gr Speer. Put it this way, the last 5 officer involved shootings there has been no court cases. There was even a windshield involved that didn't bother the round any.

My vote will always be with the 165gr Speer .40

Real world cases. That's testimony.
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I like a 180gr Gold Dot over 7.5gr of Longshot in R-P brass with a Ferderal small pistol primer.
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AR15.com has a really good ammo faq in their handgun ammo forum. They recommend they following loads for sd:

  • Barnes all-copper bullets (140 & 155gr) loaded by: Cor-Bon (DPX40140)
  • Winchester Ranger 180gr JHP (RA40T)
  • Winchester Ranger 165gr JHP (RA40TA)
  • Winchester Partition Gold 165gr JHP (RA401P)
  • Winchester Bonded 180gr JHP (Q4355)
  • Speer Gold Dot 155gr JHP (53961)
  • Speer Gold Dot 180gr JHP (53962)
  • Federal Tactical 165gr JHP (LE40T3)
  • Federal Tactical 180gr JHP (LE40T1)
  • Federal HST 180gr JHP (P40HST1)
  • Remington Golden Saber 180 gr JHP (GS40SWB) (this is what I carry)
http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Self_De....htm#.40%20S&W
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Im looking for opinions from those with more experience with glocks and .40 sw in general. In my own opinion i feel that the 165gr speer gold dots, 165gr winchester ranger and the 180gr Federal loads are 3 of the best SD loads for the .40 sw. Looking for info and insight from others.
None of them are the best, None of them are the worst either. None of them are any good if you can't hit your target. Go get a couple boxes of each, and shoot them. Decide which one you are most accurate w/, what is reliable in your firearm, and what you can find, and go with that.

Minor differences between ammo, aren't going to be making a big difference. Only "big" difference between them, is if you anticipate needing barrier penetration, at that point you'd want a bonded bullet.

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Old 06-07-2010, 15:21   #17
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Lately, i have been trying expansion test using various rounds. With outdated racks of ribs with 4 jugs behind them those where the best loads penetrating through the bone, flesh, and meat pack... others past through but either keyholed, barely expanded or fell apart. So I came up with those as the top .40 s&w rounds. Just top of the line compared to what i was shooting.
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180gr HST
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Well, my certain department issues the 165gr Speer. Put it this way, the last 5 officer involved shootings there has been no court cases. There was even a windshield involved that didn't bother the round any.

My vote will always be with the 165gr Speer .40
Its nice when the parties are able to settle the matter outside of court.
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Any load from any reputable manufacturer above 155 grains is just fine for CCW.

If you could ever see yourself in any possible scenario where there is something more substantial than clothing between your muzzle and the bad guy's heart then you only really have to choose what loading of 180 grain you want.

Sure, 155s will go through a windshield, but 180's do it better.

180 HST in the gun, 180 Gold Dot in the spare mag.
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