[Rusty Shackleford]

Originally Posted by pitmanr2003

want a gen4 and want to shoot lead bullets so i need a new barrel, but didnt know if any of them works with gen 4. i want lone wofe or stone.

The answer from the manufacturers (as reported by myself and others) is "yes."

The result of using one of these barrels, for me, has been no different than using it in any other Glock pistol.

[Glocks&Ducs]

Originally Posted by pitmanr2003

want a gen4 and want to shoot lead bullets so i need a new barrel, but didnt know if any of them works with gen 4. i want lone wofe or stone.

You don't need a different barrel to shoot lead through a Glock.

[gunstoshoot]

Originally Posted by Glocks&Ducs

You don't need a different barrel to shoot lead through a Glock.

Please elaborate on what you mean by your comment. I always thought that Glock barrels leaded and created unsafe pressures.

Also, just read an article on the Glock Gen 4 that answers a lot of the questions in this thread. http://www.westernshooter.com/2010/0...-4-review.html

[Last Rites]

Anyone know if the 20 will be made in Gen 4?

Edit:
Found my answer...
Quoted from Western Shooter Blog Archive;

"As of right now, February 2010, the Glock GEN 4 is only available in the G22 and G17. The G22 is chambered in .40 S&W and is considered a “standard” size Glock. The G17 is chambered in 9mm (9×19mm) and is also considered “standard” size. Glock is planning on releasing the GEN 4 in all of their models. As far as time frame goes, they will release the G19 and G23 this fall. The next models have yet to be determined and I was told their release will be based on demand."

Would it be stupid to assume that it could be up to a year, and possibly even longer before I even see a Glock 20 (10mm) released in Gen 4? Or am I just being a pessimistic whiny little b****? I would love to buy a Gen 4 20 today, but the gosh darn thing doesn't sound very promising for my immediate future.

[runhotshot]

Originally Posted by 3rdgen40

Anyone know if 9mm's will have the dual recoil spring or just the 40's ?

Yup, same spring

[GoingQuiet]

Originally Posted by Glocks&Ducs

You don't need a different barrel to shoot lead through a Glock.

I would NEVER shoot bare lead through a Glock factory barrel.

[Glocks&Ducs]

Originally Posted by GoingQuiet

I would NEVER shoot bare lead through a Glock factory barrel.

So what? That doesn't mean it can't be done safely.

[Al Swearengen]

Originally Posted by Last Rites

Anyone know if the 20 will be made in Gen 4?

Edit:
Found my answer...
Quoted from Western Shooter Blog Archive;

"As of right now, February 2010, the Glock GEN 4 is only available in the G22 and G17. The G22 is chambered in .40 S&W and is considered a “standard” size Glock. The G17 is chambered in 9mm (9×19mm) and is also considered “standard” size. Glock is planning on releasing the GEN 4 in all of their models. As far as time frame goes, they will release the G19 and G23 this fall. The next models have yet to be determined and I was told their release will be based on demand."

Would it be stupid to assume that it could be up to a year, and possibly even longer before I even see a Glock 20 (10mm) released in Gen 4? Or am I just being a pessimistic whiny little b****? I would love to buy a Gen 4 20 today, but the gosh darn thing doesn't sound very promising for my immediate future.

Any updates as to when Glock may be coming out with the 20/29 in Gen4?

[Forgoten214]

Does anyone know if they will stop making Gen3 Glocks now that the Gen4 came out? I heard rumors that it is a direct replacement then I've had people mention that the Gen4 is just an addition to the Gen3.

Just curious to see if anyone knew or not.

[Doug in Ak]

Don't know if they will stop making the gen 3 but I do know I ordered a new one Thursday and it should be here tomorrow. Personally, I love the gen 3 guns and really don't have a desire for a gen 4. But hey, I'm an old guy and not interested in change! JMHO

[Gray_Wolf]

Did Glock make any changed on Gen4 guns since they been made? there are some reports of poor reliability in gen4 guns (any truth to that?) and others said that Glock fixed the issue (how??) If that's true that glock made changes to the gen4's what was changed and what date/SN guns are 'safe' to buy?

[njl]

Originally Posted by Gray_Wolf

Did Glock make any changed on Gen4 guns since they been made? there are some reports of poor reliability in gen4 guns (any truth to that?) and others said that Glock fixed the issue (how??) If that's true that glock made changes to the gen4's what was changed and what date/SN guns are 'safe' to buy?

Dude! Do some reading. The only change I'm aware of post-production on the Gen4 guns is a few revisions of the new dual spring recoil assemblies. Some people had function issues with the original dual spring assemblies with "weak US market ammo".

[ArizonaPhil]

It appears that the latest Gen 4 Model 19 spring is 0 4 2. I just purchased one with the test fire date as 6/24/11 and it had the 0 4 2 spring in it.

[ChazzMatt]

Originally Posted by njl

Dude! Do some reading. The only change I'm aware of post-production on the Gen4 guns is a few revisions of the new dual spring recoil assemblies. Some people had function issues with the original dual spring assemblies with "weak US market ammo".

Glock also changed extractor design about the same time. They also started including them with gen3s but it was introduced when the gen4s were introduced. So, that's why some people are changing to Lone Wolf extractors to see if that helps. Thinking is maybe the extractor is contributing to the problem by not extracting!

Glock even told customer they had a batch of "out of spec" extractors. Is it that or a bad design?

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"weak U.S. market ammo" is bull. Any reputable gun should be able to fire factory SAAMI spec ammo. Period. Winchester white box is loaded to SAMMI specs. If Glock can't fire that, it's Glock's fault.

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And I'm a huge Glock fan. I've only owned Glocks for the past 21 years. Right now I own a Gen3 Glock 19 and a Gen4 Glock 26. I sold a Gen3 Glock 26 to get the Gen4 26 -- which had several FTEs in the first 300 rounds. Since springs didn't change with the Glock 26s, I'm leaning towards the extractor theory myself.

But if Glock has screwed up, don't be mindless fanbois about it. I'm sure they will fix it, but don't blame the messengers and don't blame ammo. My Gen3 Glock has no trouble shooting factory SAMMI spec ammo. If Gen4s can't, it's the Gen4 fault (somewhere in the firing process), not the ammo's fault (which didn't change).

[mike g35]

Anyone know if I can use the trigger group out of my Gen 3 G35 in my Gen 4 G17 rtf?

[DannyR]

When Federal Ammunition introduces a product like Federal Champion 115-gr FMJ 9mm ammo to the USA market, the lowest powered ammo ever offered, then it is an ammo issue. It won't function in a new Gen4, New XD or New Kimber. Champion would not even function in my Gen2 G19 when I installed a brand new factory recoil spring assembly to test.

With it's latest 9mm offering, Kimber recommends only 124-gr and higher full power service ammo.

Sometimes it is an ammo issue. Sometimes it is a shooter issue. Sometimes it is a recoil spring issue.

Try not to forget all the issues stated here that new shooters have had after buying a Gen2 or Gen3 "C" model 9mm Glock.

[DannyR]

Originally Posted by DannyR

When Federal Ammunition introduces a product like Federal Champion 115-gr FMJ 9mm ammo to the USA market, the lowest powered ammo ever offered, then it is an ammo issue. It won't function in a new Gen4, New XD or New Kimber. Champion would not even function in my Gen2 G19 when I installed a brand new factory recoil spring assembly to test.

With it's latest 9mm offering, Kimber recommends only 124-gr and higher full power service ammo.

Sometimes it is an ammo issue. Sometimes it is a shooter issue. Sometimes it is a recoil spring issue.

Try not to forget all the issues stated here that new shooters have had after buying a Gen2 or Gen3 "C" model 9mm Glock.

SAAMI regulates maximum pressures, not minimum, cheap loadings. Winchester USA (PF of 136.85) works fine in all Glocks. It is far hotter than Federal Champion (PF of 129.38). Glocks, being Military pistols, are designed around the 124-gr FMJ NATO round, PF of 146.94.

[michael_b]

I shoot Federal champion and it functions in my Gen 4 17 with the original RSA.

[Ron_g4g17]

I'm new here. i would like to know if there's such thing as "break in" when using glock for the first time? if so how? what type of ammo must be use?
thank you in advance...

[Forgoten214]

You just use it.

Originally Posted by Ron_g4g17

I'm new here. i would like to know if there's such thing as "break in" when using glock for the first time? if so how? what type of ammo must be use?
thank you in advance...

[Ron_g4g17]

"Get rid of that nickel plated sissy pistol and get yourself a Glock." - Tommy Lee Jones [US Marshalls]

actually i got a my first glock....and would like to know if there's such thing as "break in"
thank you

[Forgoten214]

Nope, its a combat pistol. Ready to go out of the box. Its not a 1911 or Revolver that have a high number of internal parts and are delicate to different situations and break ins. Glocks do not have this problem. No break in required, although some guys on here might have their own break in but its mental not a requirement for the action of the gun.

Originally Posted by Ron_g4g17

"Get rid of that nickel plated sissy pistol and get yourself a Glock." - Tommy Lee Jones [US Marshalls]

actually i got a my first glock....and would like to know if there's such thing as "break in"
thank you

[Ron_g4g17]

Thank you so much Sir Forgoten214....
might have some upcomming questions re glock...hope to here from you again.

[Ratsnake21]

What are the best cleaning/lubricating products to use on a Gen 4 Glock 30?

[Forgoten214]

Ballistol