What exactly is the .25 trigger job? - Page 2

DaveA · 08-28-2009, 11:22

What is it? It's a good way to screw up your gun if you don't know what you're doing. Just shoot it. It'll smooth out on it's own.

slidecrook · 08-28-2009, 12:00

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Originally Posted by Evela

...will absolutely be jumped on by any prosecutor or civil liablity attorney worth his/her salt.

Instead of focusing on why you feared for your life, the jury will be treated to why you thought you do some self-help gunsmithing and why you decided to put in a connector that the manufacturer recommends against.

This should be our paramount concern.

JJay03 · 08-28-2009, 12:05

I dont see how you could mess the gun up by a little polishing. I just dont see how you would screw something up unless your totally ignorant. I took my 1911 frame apart down to every last piece and it wasnt that bad at all. The glock looks a lot more simple then that even.

DaveA · 08-28-2009, 12:10

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Originally Posted by JJay03

I dont see how you could mess the gun up by a little polishing. I just dont see how you would screw something up unless your totally ignorant. I took my 1911 frame apart down to every last piece and it wasnt that bad at all. The glock looks a lot more simple then that even.

All I know is I always see threads in here along the lines of:

"Tried a .25 cent trigger job and now something is wrong"

Usually people take too much off would be my guess.

Duck of Death · 08-28-2009, 13:23

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What exactly is the .25 trigger job?

A waste of time, learn how to do a real trigger job on a Glock.

ewasson · 08-28-2009, 16:17

I used a ceramic sharpening stone (Ultra-fine) from my Lansky knife sharpening kit. I choose this method because the ceramic stone does a fine job of smoothing and shining with taking off too much metal. It is thin and small enough to use. The down side is that is incredibly (super-incredibly) time consuming. But if you hurry this job, you will probably do bad things to your firearm. I can do very precise polishing with the stone, plus running the parts against the stone while polishing provides feedback that lets me know when I need to polish more, and more importantly when I need to STOP polishing.

04LS1GTO · 12-02-2009, 23:27

No sense in starting a new thread when I could resurrect an old one

I've thought about doing this (by hand, not with a dremel) but am afraid of making my trigger pull too light. :( I have a NY1 spring right now, but also have my regular "S" coil spring. If it lightens the pull, would it be worth it to continue using my NY1? Or will it not really affect the pull weight with the standard coil?

Would this void the warranty?

3rdgen40 · 12-03-2009, 06:59

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What exactly is the .25 trigger job?

It's a giant,steaming pile of BS.That's what it is...

TRX450R_Racer · 12-03-2009, 07:35

It's not brain surgery. Just go easy and you won't have a problem. Polish it don't grind it. I've done it to all my Glocks and I have the Ghost ultimate 3.5lb connector in all of them. I even have the same set up in my carry gun.

220-9er · 12-03-2009, 08:06

I did mine yesterday. Several videos & instructions on the web.
Smooths out rough surfaces that are on some guns to make the trigger smoother, not lighter.
My 8 year old G27 was a lot smoother, even new, than my 6 month old 19. When I took it apart I found out why. The stamped metal parts that contact each other look like the tooling they used was older and did not make as smooth a cut. The trigger felt like it had a little bit of grit. I used a EZE-Lap Diamond stick sharpener for support with some 800 grit paper wrapped around instead of a Dremel. More precise and just polishes and smooths the rough spots. Just take your time and be careful however you do it.
One advantage is that you should feel a lot more comfortable with the mechanics of your gun after disassembling and reassembling. Just take your time and follow the instructions carefully. Stop and see whats wrong if something doesn't feel right. The only thing that takes a little finesse is the trigger pin. I found that wiggling the slide stop around was the problem as it uses the same pin. But no force is required, just moving it a little so the pin can slide through smoothly. It took me about 10 minutes to take it apart the first time while reading the instructions carefully. Now I can strip it and reassemble in a fraction of the time and feel confident I did it right. And I have a NY1 in it too.

Bowtie · 12-03-2009, 08:51

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Originally Posted by 3rdgen40

It's a giant,steaming pile of BS.That's what it is...

WHAT?

sgtlmj · 12-03-2009, 09:08

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=.25+cent+trigger+job

3rdgen40 · 12-03-2009, 09:22

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Originally Posted by Bowtie

WHAT?

Shooting your gun will yield much better results.Just think about all the nimrods out there that have taken files, dremmel tools,sand paper,bench grinders(

) to trigger bars and connectors.Its kind of scary...

Bowtie · 12-03-2009, 09:32

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Originally Posted by 3rdgen40

Shooting your gun will yield much better results.:

I disagree. If your gun is lubed as it should be then there is no way the metal to metal contacts with smooth themselves out. The .25 trigger job done right will make a big difference in smoothing out the action..

TRX450R_Racer · 12-03-2009, 09:46

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Originally Posted by bowtie

i disagree. If your gun is lubed as it should be then there is no way the metal to metal contacts with smooth themselves out. The .25 trigger job done right will make a big difference in smoothing out the action..

...x2

***Butch*** · 12-03-2009, 10:27

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Originally Posted by MilitantBEEMER

What exactly is the .25 trigger job?

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Originally Posted by 3rdgen40

It's a giant,steaming pile of BS.That's what it is...

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Originally Posted by Bowtie

WHAT?

That's a highly technical description!

Actually, as most of you probably know already, I tend to agree that most people would be much better off to go forth and shoot the gun a lot instead of polishing parts.

Doing so not only smooths the parts 'naturally', it also has the added benefit of improving one's shooting skills, and pretty much avoids the possibility of *causing* the malfunctions we see here so often that require replacement of (at least) the trigger bar.

I simply have to support Glock in saying that uneducated and inexperienced people should not (in their quest to achieve quick and easy shooting skills) be polishing the parts on a gun that they depend on to work right so they can protect innocent life and avoid needless accidents.

***Butch*** · 12-03-2009, 10:47

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Originally Posted by Bowtie

I disagree. If your gun is lubed as it should be then there is no way the metal to metal contacts with smooth themselves out.

I too must disagree.... 'Properly lubed', it should only have oil on the connector/trigger bar interface, right?

And, do you not put oil on a stone when you sharpen a knife?

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The .25 trigger job done right will make a big difference in smoothing out the action..

Agree! But the key words there are "done right", which all too often isn't the case, especially among new Glock owners.

But look at the bright side, we don't have any bone headed fmj158's involved.....Glocks don't chamber a cartridge that's loaded with a 158 grain FMJ.

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Bowtie · 12-03-2009, 10:56

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Originally Posted by Butch

I too must disagree.... 'Properly lubed', it should only have oil on the connector/trigger bar interface, right?

And, do you not put oil on a stone when you sharpen a knife?

Agree! But the key words there are "done right", which all too often isn't the case, especially among new Glock owners.

But look at the bright side, we don't have any bone headed fmj158's involved.....Glocks don't chamber a cartridge that's loaded with a 158 grain FMJ.

(PM sent)

lol back at ya..I havent had a trigger yet that felt as rough as a stone but you never know...

Lloyd-Xmas · 01-04-2010, 21:33

My little brother and I both spent about four hours breaking down our glocks and doing a detailed polish on all the parts detailed in the .25 trigger job. I want that four hours of my life back.

At first we were both like... well I think it feels a little smoother. Then it was...you know, I think it feels about the same as before.

I can't say for sure but, I kind of think that was a waste of polish. My feeling is that if you are really bored, and you really just want to open up your glock (which we did want to do) then go ahead, but unless you are also changing connectors (mine has a ghost 3.5 already) I doubt you'll notice much difference.

Bowtie · 01-04-2010, 21:38

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Originally Posted by Lloyd-Xmas

My little brother and I both spent about four hours breaking down our glocks and doing a detailed polish on all the parts detailed in the .25 trigger job. I want that four hours of my life back.

At first we were both like... well I think it feels a little smoother. Then it was...you know, I think it feels about the same as before.

I can't say for sure but, I kind of think that was a waste of polish. My feeling is that if you are really bored, and you really just want to open up your glock (which we did want to do) then go ahead, but unless you are also changing connectors (mine has a ghost 3.5 already) I doubt you'll notice much difference.

Do you have an un-touched Glock there with you so you can compare the difference?

blk_she3p · 01-05-2010, 16:40

Well, I must have been really bored this weekend

. I polished mine. There feels like a little difference. I really just wanted to learn my glock so I thought I would give it a shot while gun was apart.

Lloyd-Xmas · 01-07-2010, 12:00

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Originally Posted by Bowtie

Do you have an un-touched Glock there with you so you can compare the difference?

Yeah, his is a G19. I guess you could kind of tell, the break was maybe a little cleaner but nothing tangible I could really put my finger on. Still good because if we hadn't done it we would never have found out how easy it was to detail strip.

recycooler · 01-08-2010, 14:51

Hey dear I am going to order a ghost rocket trigger for my glock would you like one for yours?

No thanks,

Are you sure?

Yes

(install trigger and .25 trigger job)

Hey dear try this..Now try yours

( reracks tries both again using reset)

BIG grin appears

I will order yours tomorrow dear

thank you.

***Butch*** · 01-08-2010, 18:07

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Originally Posted by recycooler

Hey dear I am going to order a ghost rocket trigger for my glock would you like one for yours?

No thanks,

Are you sure?

Yes

(install trigger and .25 trigger job)

Hey dear try this..Now try yours

( reracks tries both again using reset)

BIG grin appears

I will order yours tomorrow dear

thank you.

Now she's gonna need a thousand repetitions of the new trigger pull.....

Jeebs40 · 02-27-2010, 21:59

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Originally Posted by Butch

No way would I advise anyone to use a 3.5 connector with a coil spring in a carry gun!

I don't quite understand this logic. What does it matter 3.5 lb or 5 lb trigger on a carry gun? (whats good for you isn't necessarily good for me) If you have any common sense at all you should know not to have your finger on the trigger unless you plan to use it. You can make all the excuses in the world but the fact is most shooting accidents happen because of ignorance, lack of training, or best of all just plain stupidity. Now you take all that into account and What does it really matter if you have a 3.5 lb or a 5 lb trigger? I personally like my 3.5 lb trigger which if anything makes me more accurate, It defiantly did not make my gun less safe.