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01-04-2010, 09:54
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#126
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CLM Number 29
RetiredDinosaur
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Originally Posted by weagle
Gen 4 trigger group on the left and Gen 3 on the right. Note the more pointed shape of the bottom of the housing on the Gen 4.

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Thanks for the great pics and descriptions Weagle!
I'm guessing that the Gen4 trigger mechanism housing is the same one used in the SF's?
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01-04-2010, 16:50
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#127
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Glockster_221
Hi everyone.
I looked for a thread to answer this question, but I have had no such luck..
When is Glock going to release a Gen. 4 Glock 17 in OD? I saw that in the GSSF ordering form, you can check "Olive Drab" even on the new fourth generation models (17 and 22).
Does anyone have any idea when they're scheduled to release?
Thanks!
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I'm with you, my 3rd Gen is blk and I want the 4th in OD
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01-04-2010, 20:05
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#128
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Just pixels
Join Date: Jul 2008
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What I'm waiting for is an official updated parts list from GLock that will show beyond a doubt what parts are and are not compatible between the two.
Thinking mainly connector and trigger springs, but also internal slide parts. Now their is no reason those SHOULD change, but just to make sure Glock did not do any "Updating" as they had a new slide that did not have to be compatible wiht old models anyway.
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01-04-2010, 21:34
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#129
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Join Date: May 2008
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Measurments of the gen 4 vs the gen 3 measured from the back of the trigger guard to the curve of the backstrap.
Gen 3 = 2.242"
Gen 4 with no added backstrap = 2.154
Gen 4 with medium "M" backstrap = 2.245
Gen 4 with large "L" backstrap = 2.320
These measurements are for comparison only and are not intended to be any sort of official specs. I made them with a set of dial calipers from midway so although I was careful to be as accurate as possible there is some room for error.
I also measured the width of the grips and the Gen 3 was 1.185" wide while the Gen 4 was thinner at 1.178"
I'm sure there are many more measurements that people will be interested in, but the main point is the Gen 4 grip is shorter front to back and thinner side to side than the Gen 3 grip.
Weagle
Last edited by weagle; 01-04-2010 at 21:35..
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01-04-2010, 21:45
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#130
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: MI
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What about G34's and G35's, when will they be release in GEN4?
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01-05-2010, 16:17
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#131
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GUNDWG
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Texas
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I just picked up my 4th gen today from GT Distributors here in Austin, TX. Anyone know what the trigger pull is measured at? This feels much heavier than the 5.5lb. Haven't shot it yet. I could barely get it out of the office. All of the other officers kept asking to buy it!
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01-05-2010, 16:34
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#132
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CLM Number 29
RetiredDinosaur
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluecard
I just picked up my 4th gen today from GT Distributors here in Austin, TX. Anyone know what the trigger pull is measured at? This feels much heavier than the 5.5lb. Haven't shot it yet. I could barely get it out of the office. All of the other officers kept asking to buy it!
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It should say on the box label.
And yeah......pictures!
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01-05-2010, 16:37
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#133
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GUNDWG
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Texas
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Thanks, yeah it does say 5LB. I guess I need to break it in! When I saw that they had came in I jumped on it like a fat kid on a happy meal and still was only able to get number 158 of the first run.
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01-05-2010, 16:45
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#134
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluecard
Thanks, yeah it does say 5LB. I guess I need to break it in! When I saw that they had came in I jumped on it like a fat kid on a happy meal and still was only able to get number 158 of the first run.
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Is it just me or do the finger grooves look more spaced out than the gen3's?
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01-05-2010, 16:53
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#135
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2003
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Will the Advantage Arms .22 conversion kits work with the Gen 4 pistols?
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01-05-2010, 18:01
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#136
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Location: North Georgia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluecard
I just picked up my 4th gen today from GT Distributors here in Austin, TX. Anyone know what the trigger pull is measured at? This feels much heavier than the 5.5lb. Haven't shot it yet. I could barely get it out of the office. All of the other officers kept asking to buy it!
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The Gen 4 has had the grip pushed in (vs. the Gen 3) & uses a modified trigger housing... much like the G-21sf. I have been wondering if that would make the trigger pull heavier.
All sf models I have ever held seem to have a much heavier pull than the comparable non-sf models. I believe that the modified housing tilts the connector back a few degrees... making a 5# connector work more like an 8# one. A Glock armorer told me that was not the case, but I have my mind made up & don't want to be confused with facts!
Last edited by Noponer; 01-06-2010 at 08:19..
Reason: wording correction
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01-06-2010, 14:59
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#137
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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GLOCK Gen4 Unveiled on ShilohTV
I'm not sure if anyone saw this article or not, but I thought I would provide the hyperlink to it below. Enjoy.
http://shilohtv.com/?p=4563
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01-06-2010, 16:14
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#138
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Emmet Fitz-Hume
I'm not sure if anyone saw this article or not, but I thought I would provide the hyperlink to it below. Enjoy.
http://shilohtv.com/?p=4563
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Nothing new.
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01-08-2010, 07:36
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#139
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Boston MA
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4th gen shooting characteristics
Has anyone purchased and taken hold of a 4th gen G22/17? If so, how does it shoot? A few guys at work shot the one Glock toted around, they said it shot .40 like a hot 9MM.
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01-08-2010, 12:39
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Gen 4 online article
OK, so I think it's safe to pass this along as I am not promoting something that costs you any money.
American Handgunner online mag.
Here is the link:
http://fmgpublications.ipaperus.com/...gunner/AHMA10/
I don't think I'm violating any forum rules as this is a free online mag with a very good review of a Gen 4 G22!
As for a Gen 4..... I'll wait for the Gen 5! Maybe the Gen 4 will usher in something like the "pre 64" Winchester Model 70 thing. Keep your early Glocks!! I sure wish I kept my pre-64 Model 70 Super Grade 375 H&H. I could sell it now and buy 10 Glocks! It got attention at the range and it would absolutely knock down any large animal I ever shot with it! But I digress....
Cheers!
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01-08-2010, 12:44
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#141
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01-08-2010, 19:13
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#142
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Location: Austin TX
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I have several threaded barrels for my gen 3 Glocks. The new Gen 4 recoil assembly looks bigger than the Gen 3 and I am wondering whether I will be able to use my barrels in Gen 4 guns. Does anyone know whether Gen 3 barrels will fit in gen 4 Glocks?
Thanks.
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01-08-2010, 19:29
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#143
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Location: LA
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Will current .22 conversions work with gen 4s?
When will 19/23s come out?
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01-09-2010, 11:44
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#144
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GUNDWG
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Noponer
The Gen 4 has had the grip pushed in (vs. the Gen 3) & uses a modified trigger housing... much like the G-21sf. I have been wondering if that would make the trigger pull heavier.
All sf models I have ever held seem to have a much heavier pull than the comparable non-sf models. I believe that the modified housing tilts the connector back a few degrees... making a 5# connector work more like an 8# one. A Glock armorer told me that was not the case, but I have my mind made up & don't want to be confused with facts! 
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I think you may be right. The trigger has loosened up a bit now that I have about 550 rounds down the pipe but it is still feels different than the others I have shot. My favorite attributes of this pistol are the grip texture and the mag release.
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01-09-2010, 11:47
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#145
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GUNDWG
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Texas
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Anyone know when the Gen4 17's are suppossed to hit the market?
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01-09-2010, 15:20
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#146
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2009
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Baton Rouge Police Supply said they were supposed to get them last month but don't have them yet.
Another local gun shop said they didn't expect to get them til after the SHOT show.
I plan the get a Model 23 when they come out. I may have to check into a G22...just to get used to the Gen 4!!!
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01-10-2010, 11:23
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#147
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Calhoun123
Will current .22 conversions work with gen 4s?
When will 19/23s come out?
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The 19/23's are coming out June-July according to a Glock LE rep.
I have the same question on the AA kit. We know the the new recoil spring assembly, bbl, and slide are different but would that effect the AA kit? Hoping someone with a Gen 4 and the kit can confirm for us
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01-11-2010, 18:37
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#148
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Any word on actual perceivable difference in new guiderods?
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01-12-2010, 01:37
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#149
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Senior Member
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Location: Austin TX
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Could someone post a photo of a gen 3 barrel next to a gen 4 barrel?
Thanks.
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01-12-2010, 10:02
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#150
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Pistolero
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Hampton Roads, VA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fooboy
Any word on actual perceivable difference in new guiderods?
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The recoil feels more "dull" compared to a Gen3, but it's not drastic. At least not in my opinion.
The thing I like most about the Gen4 is the SF grip you get, when you don't install a backstrap.
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