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Old 03-07-2008, 21:31   #81
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List on page one updated to read:

45.) Precision Cartridge, Inc - 125g - FMJ

That's the 66th load I've acquired! I see the list ( for right now ) eventually topping out in the upper 70's.....
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Old 03-10-2008, 19:03   #82
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List on page one updated to read:

28.) Federal - 110g -CC BallistiClean

That's 67 and the UPS man has been to my house three business days in a row...
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Old 10-01-2008, 21:10   #83
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Has no one tried the buffalo bore rounds yet?
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Old 01-04-2009, 09:59   #84
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anyone ever try the 147 DT load ?
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Old 01-04-2009, 20:28   #85
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Finally got some time to test the 147Gr Double Tap 357SIG. This stuff looks good, Gold Dot bullet and new Winchester brass. The bullet has a very heavy taper crimp.

First test Glock 31 (4.5" bbl)
10 rds
AV speed 1171 fps
SD = 9.21
for comparison I have 125gr Gold Dot from Georgia Arms
(just to make sure my chrony was reading normal... it was)
10 rds
AV speed 1437 fps
SD = 8.30

Second test Sig P239 (3.6" bbl)
10 rds
AV speed 1089 fps
SD 8.06
GA stuff for comp.
10 rds
AV speed 1335 fps
SD = 10.14

1) The DT 147Gr is the softest shooting 357SIG I have ever shot!
2) In my P239 it tore the center out of a 3" bull @ 25 yds, off the bench.
3) Yes it was slower than rated speed but I still like it!
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anyone ever try the 147 DT load ?
I've tried it and its like shooting other heavy for caliber rds. Low recoil, not as loud, PROBABLY more penetration. It's not why I would choose 357sig but it's a good load. Maybe for woods carry though DT has a 147FMJ now.
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Old 01-27-2009, 21:53   #86
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anyone ever try the 147 DT load ?
Yes. Late this past summer I ripped off a full 13-round mag from my G-32 as fast as I could the minute I hit the range. I wanted to duplicate conditions from a cold gun like would be the case in a real emergency. I perform this test for every carry round

All the rounds fired without any problems; can't say that my aim was much to write home about but all I was trying to do was shoot as fast as possible. I think .357sig is the perfect caliber for the 147-grain round. I imagine that if the subsonic 147-grain in 9mm does what its proponents claim the same weight/JHP design must be Superman at 1200-1300 fps.
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Old 08-05-2009, 07:15   #87
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Been a while since I posted on this thread..... I have four more loadings coming!! I will post them when I actually get my hot little hands on them. This will bring the list ( page 1 ) up to 71 and yes yes... there are more out there ( although they are getting few and far between... and pricey )
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Old 08-11-2009, 13:39   #88
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List on page one updated to read:

21.) Double Tap - 147g - FMJ

bringing the total to 68!!! I may have a problem with the other order I placed as I had a fraudulent charge put on my card....and had to block my card!! So now the folks I ordered from won't be able to run my bill through. I need to call them to get things straight... I had to add some ** to CNC cartridge as they have apparently gone the way of Triton and Lancer - too bad as they made some quality stuff!!!... I will boldly predict that eventually, this list will reach 80 loads...


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Old 09-30-2009, 14:19   #89
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Not to take away from the Double tap but the 3918 Speers are the lesser penetration rounds, the 4234 is the standard power round which should run 50 fps faster.



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I had the chance to chrono DT .357 in two guns today. One was a Glock 35 with a factory length Jarvis .357Sig barrel, the other was a Sig P239 so that is probably a good representation of the fastest and slowest handgun performance in the caliber. As a benchmark for today’s results I also fired and measured some regular off the shelf Speer brand 125gr gold dots.

February 27, 2005, Altitude 900 ft. Temp=47deg F, RH =88%,Barometer: 29.79, overcast, Time 13:30 CST. All statistics for 6 rounds fired

Double Tap 125gr. Gold Dot Hollowpoint, .357 Sig, lot number 00206, dated 1/5/2005

Glock 35 (Jarvis)
Average =1594
High = 1622
Low = 1586
ES = 36
SD = 14

Sig P239
Average =1445
High = 1478
Low = 1423
ES = 55
SD = 17

Speer Gold Dot 125gr .357 Sig, lot number #23918

Glock 35 (Jarvis)
Average =1450
High = 1459
Low = 1438
ES = 21
SD = 9

Sig P239
Average =1309
High = 1317
Low = 1301
ES = 16
SD = 5
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Old 12-04-2009, 00:27   #90
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anyone ever try the 147 DT load ?
I ordered DoubleTap in 125 gr FMJ, 125 gr Bonded Jacketed Hollow Point, 147 gr FMJ, and 147 gr Bonded Jacketed Hollow Point, and although I haven't been able to properly test them yet I did accidentally shoot off 15 rounds of the 147 gr FMJ because I mistook them for 125 gr WWB. I imagine they probably punched a few holes in their backstop. Those things pass through some metal plate like a hot knife through butter.

I have shot hot FMJ's at that indoor range before and the next time I went in they were checking with shooters to see what kind of rounds would be being used. I think my G35 with it's 6 inch barrel might have been responsible for damaging their backstop, but I didn't end up asking why they were asking...now I'm curious though.

I've gotten some FMJ's up to 1,500/ 1,600 fps in my gun before. Some of those were hot handloads using Hornady's rounded ogive .355 (9mm) 125 gr bullets. Those things were designed by the German military to punch through armour, so I'm guessing that it's possible I penetrated the backstop. Hmmmmm what do you think, possible?
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Old 12-18-2009, 09:40   #92
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Well, thanks to JBarbaresi's posting, I have now ordered another loading The Federal HST:

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...low-point-ammo

This will bring my total to 69 different loads shot ( or on hand ). I am a little disappointed with Custom Cartridge, Inc.. I ordered 3 loadings from them... and they said when they whipped up a new batch, they would call back to see if I still wanted to purchase. That was over 4 months ago....
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Old 12-19-2009, 09:03   #93
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Well, thanks to JBarbaresi's posting, I have now ordered another loading The Federal HST:

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...low-point-ammo

This will bring my total to 69 different loads shot ( or on hand ). I am a little disappointed with Custom Cartridge, Inc.. I ordered 3 loadings from them... and they said when they whipped up a new batch, they would call back to see if I still wanted to purchase. That was over 4 months ago....
let me know how those hst's feel, especially if you can do a water jug or wet phone book test. seems like bonded is the best way to go in .357sig but federal claims the hst's won't get jacket seperation or fragmentation in a non bonded bullet. i have yet to see it in the tests performed on the other caliber hst's.
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Old 12-21-2009, 08:40   #94
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Just bid on and won 500 rounds of Underwood Ammunition...
Apparently this guys loads several different calibers and only sells via Gunbroker...
This will bring my total up to 70... Of course, as always, I won't update the list on page 1 until I have said ammo in my hot little hands!!

Here is a link if anyone else is interested:

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List on page one updated to read...

Federal -125g - HSTJHP

more coming...
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Federal -125g - HSTJHP

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you can add speer gold dot LP (53918), the normal LE load is (54234).
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you can add speer gold dot LP (53918), the normal LE load is (54234).
Any difference between 23918 ( personal protection) and 54234 (LE) other than packaging ? Where could I get the LP - which I guess stands for limited penetration?
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Any difference between 23918 ( personal protection) and 54234 (LE) other than packaging ? Where could I get the LP - which I guess stands for limited penetration?
yes 23918 is limited penetration. its about 50 fps slower and has slightly lower muzzle energy. ammotogo has 54234 in boxes of 50 for $30, and 23918 in boxes of 20 for $22. i hope speer has not discontinued 54234 because its no longer on their website, and that's my carry round of choice right now.
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Well, well, well.... The UPS man finally arrived yesterday with my ammo! List on page one updated to read:

Underwood Ammunition - 124g - HP

That's the 70 Milestone Can hardly wait to get out and shoot 'er....er.....when it warms up a tad.
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This is great you guys are talking .357sig. I looked into a bunch of different loadings, and looking aprticularly at veolcity and weight statistics. Speer had the best velocities followed by buffalo bore. I'm curious to what the veolicities for Federal HST and Ranger T series run at. I would assume they are below double tap, but not positive. If anyone has any information relative to performence comparisons between DT, HST and Ranger T rounds in .357sig let me know.
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