[skeeter1959]

Originally Posted by Rashid.4v

You're lying to these people. I'm a practicing muslim and neither of those three are in my "plans". You're citing verses out of context and trying to influence people who don't know any better the same as these radicals.

Everything I needed to know about islam, I learned on 9-11-2001.

Even if your koran didn't have these verses in it, your bretheren's actions speak volumes about your religion.

[Rashid.4v]

I'm having issues trying to quote on my iPhone, but Skeeter1959, it isn't wise to learn everything about a subject based on the worst experience. All germans aren't hitler, and not comparing anything just using an example.
Discussing child molestation with a convicted pedophile or rapist wouldn't be prudent.

Learning anything about islam from a radical western hater won't get you anything except to stock up on ammo.

[bennwj]

Originally Posted by Rashid.4v

It's obvious by your flagrant and open disrespect that you hate muslims for whatever evils you've seen commited by radicals.
You want to call me a troll because I won't sit idly by while you preach your hate kool aid and throughout out misinformation. You're the only troll on here insighting hate with no productive info, just disrespect and rudeness.

You can keep up your name calling "pedophile" prophet and so on it just prove my case. I don't need to stoop to your level in insulting Jesus to get my point accross I just explain my position.
I've been a law abiding american muslim since '90 when I converted and no matter how much lies and hate you put out I shall remain so. Must eat you up.

Disrespect muslims? Guilty as charged. I show no respect to anybody who does not return the favor. I am not as unclean as a dog and worthy of death.

I am not preaching hate. Hate is an emotion. I AM advocating vigilance though. Vigilance against islam and those who would make us believe that it is a religion of peace. Vigilance against those who are so politically correct they endanger the rest of us.

Pedophile Prophet? What else accurately describes a man who marries a 6 year old girl and then consummates the marriage when she turned 9? NO ISLAMIC SCHOLAR DENIES THIS.

Insult Jesus all you like. No skin off my ass. That **** is between you and him on judgement day.

Inciting hate with misinformation? I (and many others here) have refuted the notion that yours is a peaceful religion with quotes from your own holy book. I didn't make that **** up about converting, taxing or killing the infidel. Your illiterate (again muslim scholars say he was illiterate) prophet came up with that **** as well.

Your position, is that you have no position that a rational, intelligent human being could understand let alone agree with. You keep saying that it is a religion of peace, and say that you and most muslims condemn these acts, but can not prove that the religion does not preach hate and murder.

99% of muslims cheer whenever a suicide bomber kills people, or when the news reports more Americans were killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. I can't PROVE that 99% cheer, but I never hear leaders in the muslim community condemn these acts.

[bennwj]

Originally Posted by Rashid.4v

Discussing child molestation with a convicted pedophile or rapist wouldn't be prudent.

Only smart thing you have said all night. Along the lines of your above quote I will add the following:

"Discussing how peaceful Islam is with a muslim makes as much sense as discussing child molestation with a pedophile"

Man, did you ever walk into that ****

[Mrs.Cicero]

Originally Posted by anarcho

Thanks for posting this. Muslims are no more responsible for what happened at Fort Hood than Christians are for Timothy McVeigh.

If Timothy McVeigh had claimed to be a Christian, your comparison might hold water, but McVeigh described himself as AGNOSTIC, and claimed "Science is my god." I'm getting real tired of this.

A Muslim, self-described, WAS responsible for Fort Hood.

Once again I feel forced to point out that in the last ten years there have been roughly 2000 American citizens KILLED ON US SOIL by roughly 30 self-described MUSLIMS. Can you name ANY Muslims who were killed by self-described CHRISTIANS claiming to act for their God in accordance with their Scripture here in the same time period? Don't think so.
All Muslims may not want all infidels dead, but enough do that some concern for this infidel's safety is warranted. The reverse does not apply, despite all the whining coming from Dearbornistan about "fear of reprisals" for Fort Hood. I'm not about to go capping anyone just because they don't share my beliefs. Everyone has a right to their own beliefs no matter how stupid and misguided they are. But their rights STOP where mine start - I have the right to free speech, thus allowing me to attempt to convert anyone who listens - and the reverse is true as well, anyone may attempt to convert me, tho' the LDS and the JW's have given up. I do not have the right to kill someone for not believing that Jesus Christ died for their sins, NOR DO THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO KILL ME FOR BELIEVING AS I DO. There are too many Muslims who do not recognize either right. I have yet to hear of a Buddhist who does not recognize them. I have yet to hear of a Taoist who does not recognize them. I have yet to hear of a Jew who does not recognize them. But I hear of a whole lot of Muslims who don't recognize them. Not all, but enough, and I think it is time we admit that the percentage is far greater among the Muslims than any other religion you can name. Stop excusing evil by trying to obscure it. When imams declare the Ft Hood shooter apostate and call for his beheading, then I will no longer blame Islam for the problem, but as long as imams are screaming for jihad and guaranteeing murderers of children and innocents a place in paradise... then Muslims are the problem, because they refuse to police their own.

Mrs.Cicero

[Mrs.Cicero]

Originally Posted by chongfa

It was my old address, which I haven't changed yet.

As a response to what are you saying. Don't Christians supposes to convert people also?

Yes, Christians are supposed to convert people, but by how they live and what they say, not by threatening to hack off their heads if they don't, nor by taxing them at rate higher than their own til they'll starve if they don't. It's that whole Right of Free Speech - you get to say whatever you want, and I get to say whatever I want, and neither of us has the right to kill the other for it.
Last time I heard, there were a bunch of Christians in jail in Islamic countries, charged with attempting to convert Muslims to Christianity. And what's with that kill-any-Muslim-who-converts law? Total violation of human rights. And here's where the problem begins...Muslim from that culture comes to US because they want the better standard of living here... but they move to Dearbornistan and insist on continuing to behave in the patterns from their original culture/country, including murdering their daughters when they go to school without a stupid scarf on their heads.
In refusing to change their behaviors to acknowledge and live by basic human rights, they fail to realize that the standard of living they came here to enjoy is a DIRECT RESULT of America living by those rights. If you trash them, eventually you will end up with the nasty dictatorial regimes and secret police you were trying to escape by coming here.
So if one isn't going to acculturate (if that is the word I am looking for), then one should JUST GO HOME. If one is going to join the civilized world, then end the jihads, stop murdering daughters, and just learn to ignore the people who say things you don't believe... kind of like...Glocktalk.
This doesn't require conversion to any other religion, but it does require policing your own.

Mrs.Cicero

[rd21]

Originally Posted by snowbird

The OP claimed "Muslims risked their lives to save victims of the 9/11 attacks". Would he please name two or three of these?

The OP is worried that "innocent" Muslims MIGHT be "discriminated against, harassed, and even killed", but meanwhile, in ACTUAL history, Muslims have murdered 52 Americans in 31 attacks on US soil since 9/11. That includes ten victims of 'honor' killing. Where is the OP's concern for their blood?

My Uncle and Aunt (she converted, we are an otherwise Christian family), a doctor and nurse, respectively, among the first on the scene on 9/11, and who both sustained serious injuries saving their fellow Americans.

Care to be any more of a jerk? Where were you that day?

Meanwhile, as they were working, we had to go take their daughter out of school because she was being threatened by children whose parents must have taught them the same ignorant values you adhere to.

If you think we shouldn't be concerned about innocent American Muslims just because innocent Christian American's were killed, you're values are as bankrupt as the jihadists themselves.