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Old 04-15-2009, 15:05   #601
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I played with my buddy's taser a little bit after court and didn't seem to have any trouble turning it on or aiming with my left hand so I will probably wear it left handed draw.
I've always thought off hand draw should be mandated for tasers.
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Old 04-15-2009, 15:45   #602
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I've always thought off hand draw should be mandated for tasers.
It is for most departments. It gives the department cover if the officer makes that small mistake of killing the guy instead of tazing him. The guy probably deserved it anyway right?

Isn't that the defense the DART officer used who shot the guy in the back while he was handcuffed and on his stomach back a few months ago?
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Old 04-15-2009, 16:23   #603
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You mean cross draw.

I mean a straight draw with your off hand.

BART carried their tasers on their strong side. Bad idea.
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Old 04-15-2009, 23:14   #604
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We have them cross draw on the belt. The brass is not too hot on the idea of the drop leg off side taser holsters yet. Too tactical, they say.
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Old 04-16-2009, 06:41   #605
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"too tactical" should not be a phrase in modern day policing
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Old 04-16-2009, 08:14   #606
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"too tactical" should not be a phrase in modern day policing
The admin/brass still can't get used to it. The fight over nylon is still raging for some too. It seems that patrol shouldn't wear nylon, only special units like gangs and such. Sad state of affairs. As long as we do our jobs and don't look sloppy, especially if it helps the comfort level, why not?
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Old 04-16-2009, 09:06   #607
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The admin/brass still can't get used to it. The fight over nylon is still raging for some too. It seems that patrol shouldn't wear nylon, only special units like gangs and such. Sad state of affairs. As long as we do our jobs and don't look sloppy, especially if it helps the comfort level, why not?
Are you allowed leather style nylon, like the fake basketweave stuff?

Have you made safety arguments? Nylon can take harsher disinfectants without damage, while leather would get wrecked if you tried to properly decontaminate it after a blood exposure...
Also, nylon is lighter and therefore less likely to cause back injuries.
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Old 04-17-2009, 20:36   #608
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"First the patrol guys ask for nylon gear...if we give them that the next thing they are going to want is suspenders.....then they will want BDU pants....then listen-only earpieces....next thing you know we have 50 swat officers running around the streets...no, it's basketweave and you'll like it."

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Are you allowed leather style nylon, like the fake basketweave stuff?

Have you made safety arguments? Nylon can take harsher disinfectants without damage, while leather would get wrecked if you tried to properly decontaminate it after a blood exposure...
Also, nylon is lighter and therefore less likely to cause back injuries.
Oh, I don't care really. I wear nylon... those patrol guys are on their own! SUCKAHS!
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That mag pouch/cuff idea is pretty cool.
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Old 04-19-2009, 21:45   #611
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The admin/brass still can't get used to it. The fight over nylon is still raging for some too. It seems that patrol shouldn't wear nylon, only special units like gangs and such. Sad state of affairs. As long as we do our jobs and don't look sloppy, especially if it helps the comfort level, why not?
Yup same here. NO NYLON except for bike units and SWAT.

We too are mandated to have the taser cross drawed. I wore a drop rig on my "weak" thigh for a bit and really liked it until one day a "boss" showed up and hammered me. That was the end of that. IT was way to intimidating according the the powers that be. If they think that's intimidating they should stare down the business end with the laser, but then again P.O.'s are not allowed to carry them either. Go figure
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Yup same here. NO NYLON except for bike units and SWAT.

We too are mandated to have the taser cross drawed. I wore a drop rig on my "weak" thigh for a bit and really liked it until one day a "boss" showed up and hammered me. That was the end of that. IT was way to intimidating according the the powers that be. If they think that's intimidating they should stare down the business end with the laser, but then again P.O.'s are not allowed to carry them either. Go figure
I hate it when we intimidate those who seek to prey on others.

Isn't there some agency or unit out there that has it in their motto that they intimidate those who seek to oppress others or something like that?
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Old 04-19-2009, 23:51   #613
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I hate it when we intimidate those who seek to prey on others.

Isn't there some agency or unit out there that has it in their motto that they intimidate those who seek to oppress others or something like that?
"We intimidate those who intimidate others" Its a California Agency, I think LAPD.
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"We intimidate those who intimidate others" Its a California Agency, I think LAPD.
Not very likely to be LAPD... more like "We cater to those who hate us because our traitorous mayor and the Consent Decree say so".
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Not very likely to be LAPD... more like "We cater to those who hate us because our traitorous mayor and the Consent Decree say so".
The cops in the anti-gang unit in Los Angeles' Rampart division had a motto: "We intimidate those who intimidate others." They worked the city's most violent neighborhoods, met firepower with firepower and succeeded in bringing gang-related crimes down 60% from 1992 to 1999.

Taken from this article - http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...-88806,00.html

Not sure how much truth there is in that article, but Lt. Col. Dave Grossman also mentions that it came from a California Agency in this excerpt
http://www.killology.com/sheep_dog.htm
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The cops in the anti-gang unit in Los Angeles' Rampart division had a motto: "We intimidate those who intimidate others." They worked the city's most violent neighborhoods, met firepower with firepower and succeeded in bringing gang-related crimes down 60% from 1992 to 1999.

Taken from this article - http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...-88806,00.html

Not sure how much truth there is in that article, but Lt. Col. Dave Grossman also mentions that it came from a California Agency in this excerpt
http://www.killology.com/sheep_dog.htm
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We all know how well that CRASH unit worked out for LAPD and how cozy it got them with the Feds.
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Old 04-26-2009, 16:20   #619
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How much was the holster? I have been looking for such a holster for my Springfield Operator.
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It's just a 6280.

Looks like the going rate is about $135 is "real" Safariland leather and $85 in fine-tac or STX basketweave.

Safariland is now making a 6360 (ALS) for a railed 1911 with a tac light, and it is running about $107 in fine tac or stx basketweave.

I will probably be unloading my 6280s on the GT forums in the near future since i just got a 6360 for the 1911.
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Old 04-26-2009, 17:42   #621
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My dept doesn't let us keep our weapon light mounted. i have to carry mine in a separate pouch. It's BS.
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Old 04-26-2009, 18:11   #622
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My dept doesn't let us keep our weapon light mounted. i have to carry mine in a separate pouch. It's BS.
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Old 04-26-2009, 18:14   #623
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It's just a 6280.

Looks like the going rate is about $135 is "real" Safariland leather and $85 in fine-tac or STX basketweave.

Safariland is now making a 6360 (ALS) for a railed 1911 with a tac light, and it is running about $107 in fine tac or stx basketweave.

I will probably be unloading my 6280s on the GT forums in the near future since i just got a 6360 for the 1911.
Is that holster Leather? If so, put me down for "first dibs" if/when you decide to sell it. If your Kimber TLE/RL II fits in it, my Springfield Operator should drop right in with a TLR-2 on it.

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Old 04-26-2009, 21:03   #625
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That's a lot of empty real estate!
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