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Old 10-30-2013, 04:36   #1
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Medical Examiner: Adam Lanza not on medication at Sandy Hook massacre

Not what I would have expected..

http://www.courant.com/news/connecti...,1098095.story
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Old 10-30-2013, 04:39   #2
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I guess some are just naturally that messed up.

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Old 10-30-2013, 04:58   #3
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I guess some are just naturally that messed up.
Some people are just pure evil. They have no respect for human life, not even their own.

I'm convinced that today's society is creating these people by the bus load every day.

The current humanistic anti-God attitude, hedonism and its demand for instant gratification, all together with a serious lack of personal responsibility are the main reasons for our social and moral decline.

And it's going to get worse, a lot worse.

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Old 10-30-2013, 05:01   #4
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The current anti-God attitude, the demand for instant gratification and a serious lack of personal responsibility are the main reasons for our social and moral decline.
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Perhaps...
Or is it possible that these things are symptoms of a larger societal decline?
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Old 10-30-2013, 05:09   #5
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Perhaps...
Or is it possible that these things are symptoms of a larger societal decline?
Most definitely!

I must stop there because I don't want to create a firestorm of controversy and get banned for life, not only from this website but from the entire internet.
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Old 10-31-2013, 21:27   #6
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Most definitely!

I must stop there because I don't want to create a firestorm of controversy and get banned for life, not only from this website but from the entire internet.
This should go in the hall of fame.
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Old 10-30-2013, 05:20   #7
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Some people are just pure evil. They have no respect for human life, not even their own.

I'm convinced that today's society is creating these people by the bus load every day.

The current humanistic anti-God attitude, hedonism and its demand for instant gratification, all together with a serious lack of personal responsibility are the main reasons for our social and moral decline.

And it's going to get worse, a lot worse.

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Old 10-30-2013, 08:03   #8
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The current humanistic anti-God attitude, hedonism and its demand for instant gratification, all together with a serious lack of personal responsibility are the main reasons for our social and moral decline.
Why must you bring your fictional character into this?
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Old 10-30-2013, 13:37   #9
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Why must you bring your fictional character into this?
Maybe because the founding fathers brought God into first. They were clear that the govt. They created was only sufficient for a moral and religious people.

But then you're so much smarter than them aren't you?
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Until humans understand there are dangerously deficient humans and that life isn't special we will have these problems. Every one of these school and theater shooting idiots should have been dead a long time ago.
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Maybe because the founding fathers brought God into first. They were clear that the govt. They created was only sufficient for a moral and religious people.

But then you're so much smarter than them aren't you?
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Maybe because the founding fathers brought God into first. They were clear that the govt. They created was only sufficient for a moral and religious people.

But then you're so much smarter than them aren't you?
Awesome post - right on target.
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Maybe because the founding fathers brought God into first. They were clear that the govt. They created was only sufficient for a moral and religious people.

But then you're so much smarter than them aren't you?
If the Founding Fathers meant America to be a theocracy, then why did they draft up and passed the First Amendment?
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Some people are just pure evil. They have no respect for human life, not even their own.

I'm convinced that today's society is creating these people by the bus load every day.

The current humanistic anti-God attitude, hedonism and its demand for instant gratification, all together with a serious lack of personal responsibility are the main reasons for our social and moral decline.

And it's going to get worse, a lot worse.

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I "love" the way the article started, "The state has released..."


ETA: Be a good komrade and believe everything else we tell you about the Sandy Hook event.
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I see what you are doing there..........
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Some people are just pure evil. They have no respect for human life, not even their own.

I'm convinced that today's society is creating these people by the bus load every day.

The current humanistic anti-God attitude, hedonism and its demand for instant gratification, all together with a serious lack of personal responsibility are the main reasons for our social and moral decline.

And it's going to get worse, a lot worse.

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People like Lanza are born, not made. To blame society is simply passing the buck. HH
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People like Lanza are born, not made. To blame society is simply passing the buck. HH
This right here.

There have been unfathomably crazy people since the inception of humans.
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Old 11-01-2013, 06:08   #19
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Some people are just pure evil. They have no respect for human life, not even their own.

I'm convinced that today's society is creating these people by the bus load every day.

The current humanistic anti-God attitude, hedonism and its demand for instant gratification, all together with a serious lack of personal responsibility are the main reasons for our social and moral decline.

And it's going to get worse, a lot worse.

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Yet, if you look at the actual rate violent crimes occur, rather than the increase in news outlets reporting them, you find that they are declining, rather than increasing. I'm pretty sure you and everybody else involved in gun rights is aware of that.

I guess, by your logic, that makes "the current humanistic anti-God attitude, hedonism and its demand for instant gratification" the reason things are getting better and violent crime is decreasing, right? You can't have it both ways.
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Old 11-01-2013, 08:53   #20
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I guess, by your logic, that makes "the current humanistic anti-God attitude, hedonism and its demand for instant gratification" the reason things are getting better and violent crime is decreasing, right? You can't have it both ways.
You're right and many people are going to believe we're on a path to hell no matter what the facts are. They need a problem to go with their solution.
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Yet, if you look at the actual rate violent crimes occur, rather than the increase in news outlets reporting them, you find that they are declining, rather than increasing. I'm pretty sure you and everybody else involved in gun rights is aware of that.
Too bad more people can't see the difference between REPORTED crime and ACTUAL crime.

The number of school shootings has spiked a bit in the last three years, but overall that number is still lower today than in the 1970's, 80's and 90's. What has increased is the coverage of such incidents, not their frequency.

The same holds true for child kidnapping. The news devotes INCREDIBLE amounts of time and bandwidth to stories about missing kids and ongoing investigations, and this gives the impression that we are currently in the midst of an absolute epidemic of such cases, but the reality is that child kidnapping rates have declined somewhat from what they were in the 1990s and are more-or-less on par with what they were back in the 1960's and 70's.

Our sensationalistic "all news, all the time" 24/7 media outlets have to fill up air time somehow, and the sad fact is that murder, child rape and kidnapping SELL, so we see a lot more of it. This doesn't mean that there is more of it going on...just that it's being pushed into our faces a lot more aggressively than in the past.
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Too bad more people can't see the difference between REPORTED crime and ACTUAL crime.

The number of school shootings has spiked a bit in the last three years, but overall that number is still lower today than in the 1970's, 80's and 90's. What has increased is the coverage of such incidents, not their frequency.

The same holds true for child kidnapping. The news devotes INCREDIBLE amounts of time and bandwidth to stories about missing kids and ongoing investigations, and this gives the impression that we are currently in the midst of an absolute epidemic of such cases, but the reality is that child kidnapping rates have declined somewhat from what they were in the 1990s and are more-or-less on par with what they were back in the 1960's and 70's.

Our sensationalistic "all news, all the time" 24/7 media outlets have to fill up air time somehow, and the sad fact is that murder, child rape and kidnapping SELL, so we see a lot more of it. This doesn't mean that there is more of it going on...just that it's being pushed into our faces a lot more aggressively than in the past.
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Too bad more people can't see the difference between REPORTED crime and ACTUAL crime.

The number of school shootings has spiked a bit in the last three years, but overall that number is still lower today than in the 1970's, 80's and 90's. What has increased is the coverage of such incidents, not their frequency.

The same holds true for child kidnapping. The news devotes INCREDIBLE amounts of time and bandwidth to stories about missing kids and ongoing investigations, and this gives the impression that we are currently in the midst of an absolute epidemic of such cases, but the reality is that child kidnapping rates have declined somewhat from what they were in the 1990s and are more-or-less on par with what they were back in the 1960's and 70's.

Our sensationalistic "all news, all the time" 24/7 media outlets have to fill up air time somehow, and the sad fact is that murder, child rape and kidnapping SELL, so we see a lot more of it. This doesn't mean that there is more of it going on...just that it's being pushed into our faces a lot more aggressively than in the past.
Perception.

20 years ago most only heard the local news which focused on their immediate region. Stories from other areas were mere blurbs on tv or short articles in the national news papers.

Now, people hear about everything, many times as it is happening. This has caused people to be scared of everything that moves.
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Yet, if you look at the actual rate violent crimes occur, rather than the increase in news outlets reporting them, you find that they are declining, rather than increasing. I'm pretty sure you and everybody else involved in gun rights is aware of that.

I guess, by your logic, that makes "the current humanistic anti-God attitude, hedonism and its demand for instant gratification" the reason things are getting better and violent crime is decreasing, right? You can't have it both ways.
I'm interested in his response to this.
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Yet, if you look at the actual rate violent crimes occur, rather than the increase in news outlets reporting them, you find that they are declining, rather than increasing. I'm pretty sure you and everybody else involved in gun rights is aware of that.

I guess, by your logic, that makes "the current humanistic anti-God attitude, hedonism and its demand for instant gratification" the reason things are getting better and violent crime is decreasing, right? You can't have it both ways.
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