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Old 04-27-2013, 07:29   #1
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Collector/Sports car between 20 and 45K?

I am ready to buy a sports car. I want this car to be timeless and be proud to drive it for many years. This will be driven very seldom, so I wont be adding many miles on it.

I am having a hard time trying to decide. I was leaning towards a vette, but then considered a Camaro ZL1....I think I might even consider a GT500 (sounds like its a better car then the ZL1) I might just get a Camaro SS...but I also like older stuff also......please give me some ideas...I am open to anything
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Old 04-27-2013, 07:55   #2
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That budget can get you into some much nicer older cars. For exapmle, around here the C3 Corvette (68 to 82) is a hot entry collector market. You can get into a nice one for $15k or less and get a taste of the culture to see if it's for you.

If I were looking to jump into that hobby I would stay away from new or late model cars. Much less collectible and much more expensive. I would also stay away from project cars (to start with) because of the time and expense required to get them on the road.

Good luck deciding, have fun looking!
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That budget can get you into some much nicer older cars. For exapmle, around here the C3 Corvette (68 to 82) is a hot entry collector market. You can get into a nice one for $15k or less and get a taste of the culture to see if it's for you.

If I were looking to jump into that hobby I would stay away from new or late model cars. Much less collectible and much more expensive. I would also stay away from project cars (to start with) because of the time and expense required to get them on the road.

Good luck deciding, have fun looking!
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Old 04-27-2013, 08:00   #4
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I am ready to buy a sports car. I want this car to be timeless and be proud to drive it for many years. This will be driven very seldom, so I wont be adding many miles on it.

I am having a hard time trying to decide. I was leaning towards a vette, but then considered a Camaro ZL1....I think I might even consider a GT500 (sounds like its a better car then the ZL1) I might just get a Camaro SS...but I also like older stuff also......please give me some ideas...I am open to anything
You say "sports car" but you mention some muscle cars.

Timeless + Sports Car = Porsche in my book, there is no substitute.

Some flavor of 911 perchance.

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Old 04-27-2013, 08:17   #5
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Lot's of options in that price range. I would love a Lotus Elise. The higher end of your budget would get a Morgan 3 wheeler. Those look like huge fun.
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There are Ferraris you can get in that price range. You want to go fast, or look cool, or both?

I know it's not totally correct but when I think sports car I think 2 seat convertible, roadster, or coupe.
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Old 04-27-2013, 08:59   #7
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get something older that doesn't need any work. If it were my money I'd be looking for a 68 mustang fastback before they all get bastardized in to knock offs of a GT350
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Old 04-27-2013, 09:07   #8
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I would start off deciding --

You want something that is a collector - all original - all factory.

Or

Something that is just really cool to drive - puts a smile on your face - and if it happens to be a 1969 vehicle with a 2012 engine & transmission you don't care.
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Old 04-27-2013, 09:03   #9
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Low Mileage 2000-2003 Honda S2000. Only produced for 9 years and many are being wrecked by kids who can now afford them. A pure drivers car. 2 seat roadster, direct connection to the road and a 9k rpm redline in a little 4 banger. Timeless design too.

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Old 05-05-2013, 05:47   #10
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Low Mileage 2000-2003 Honda S2000. Only produced for 9 years and many are being wrecked by kids who can now afford them. A pure drivers car. 2 seat roadster, direct connection to the road and a 9k rpm redline in a little 4 banger. Timeless design too.
I have to strongly agree with the car choice, but strongly disagree with the years listed. The 2.0 in them from 2000-2003 sucked. You had to rev it to the end of the tach to get it to go anywhere. The 2004-2008 came with a 2.4 that made it a totally different car. Powerband starts much lower in those years. I had a 2008. I just sold it because I have chronic back problems and it was low and small.
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Old 05-05-2013, 19:08   #12
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I have to strongly agree with the car choice, but strongly disagree with the years listed. The 2.0 in them from 2000-2003 sucked. You had to rev it to the end of the tach to get it to go anywhere. The 2004-2008 came with a 2.4 (2,157 cc or not quite 2.2 L. actually) that made it a totally different car. Powerband starts much lower in those years. I had a 2008. I just sold it because I have chronic back problems and it was low and small.
To each his own, but I have a 2000 AP1 S2000 with only a cold air induction system, a Japanese head gasket to increase compression (US cars have a thicker gasket because of our crap gas) and a 2004 transmission for the better bottom 4 ratios and the carbon synchos and there isn't an AP2 (2004-2009) car in our S2000 club that can equal my lap times on track days.

The 2004 and later S2000's have 3 HP less, 9 foot pounds of torque more, 160 cc more displacement and a 1,000 rpm less on tap than the 1999-2003 cars. The 2004 and subsequent cars also got the meddlesome Clutch Delay Valve.

FWIW, only the U.S. found it necessary to stroke the F20C motor to get the low-revving F22C1 engine, the rest of the world stayed with the 9,000 rpm motor.

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Old 04-27-2013, 11:14   #13
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You can be be diffrent from everyone else, Ferrari 308 or 328, for a little more you can get a Testarossa.

Cameros, Vettes, and Muskrats. The engine is in the wrong place, too American and they're everywhere.
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The Ferrari 308 Dino is front engine, 4 pass car, just like a Camaro.
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The Ferrari 308 Dino is front engine, 4 pass car, just like a Camaro.
Did I say anything about a Dino? I should have say Magnum PI. so everyone would understand.
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Old 04-27-2013, 11:42   #16
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Old 04-27-2013, 11:46   #17
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Old 04-27-2013, 11:48   #18
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Don't get nothing you wont wanna kill someone over when they ding it if you drive it. One reason I will never have a cherry 1969 Chevelle SS.......it's not worth the prison time to me.
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Don't get nothing you wont wanna kill someone over when they ding it if you drive it. One reason I will never have a cherry 1969 Chevelle SS.......it's not worth the prison time to me.
I bought my 69 Chevelle SS 396 when I was a Jr in high school - cost me $1,400 -

Sold it 6 years later - for $400 - it was in need of a lot of small stuff and needed another engine rebuild -

I wish I would have just stuck it in storage.

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Old 04-27-2013, 12:43   #20
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collector: DeLorean or other odd-ball types. DeLorean was only in production for two years.

real sports car: used Cobra kit car. Should be able to get a nice one for close to $45K. Older corvette, maybe get an anniversary edition for more collector value.

One is'nt a real sports car, the other will never be a collector. The corvette could be collectable if it's all stock. For both in one vehicle I'd agree with an older Porshe or Ferrari in that price range.
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collector: DeLorean or other odd-ball types. DeLorean was only in production for two years.

real sports car: used Cobra kit car. Should be able to get a nice one for close to $45K. Older corvette, maybe get an anniversary edition for more collector value.

One is'nt a real sports car, the other will never be a collector. The corvette could be collectable if it's all stock. For both in one vehicle I'd agree with an older Porshe or Ferrari in that price range.
A friend of mine has a DeLorean. The engine can be fixed by anyone who can repair a Volvo and most other parts are from different cars (I think the brakes are from Jaguar for instance) but the body is a different story. If you ding or dent it you are in a hurt as there is no way to repair it without removing the entire dent.

One of the front fenders (left I think) is really hard to get as I believe the original die is now in the ocean somewhere (apparently Irish labor strikes get pretty violent). Personally I would replace the bolts mounting it with tamper-proof fasteners.

I would bet someone is making aftermarket ones now though.

And then there is the whole problem with the Flux Capacitor....
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A friend of mine has a DeLorean. The engine can be fixed by anyone who can repair a Volvo and most other parts are from different cars (I think the brakes are from Jaguar for instance) but the body is a different story. If you ding or dent it you are in a hurt as there is no way to repair it without removing the entire dent.

One of the front fenders (left I think) is really hard to get as I believe the original die is now in the ocean somewhere (apparently Irish labor strikes get pretty violent). Personally I would replace the bolts mounting it with tamper-proof fasteners.

I would bet someone is making aftermarket ones now though.

And then there is the whole problem with the Flux Capacitor....
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collector: DeLorean or other odd-ball types. DeLorean was only in production for two years.
I was going to suggest that. I've no idea how $ the upkeep is, but I believe you can get a partially restored one for the high end of the given $ range. They look sporty, but most were actually underpowered.
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I bought my 69 Chevelle SS 396 when I was a Jr in high school - cost me $1,400 -

Sold it 6 years later - for $400 - it was in need of a lot of small stuff and needed another engine rebuild -

I wish I would have just stuck in in storage.
I have essentially the same story involving a '67 Mustang. What was I thinking.
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A lot of you guys are recommending cars that a few years worth of maintenance would cost more than the car itself. How much would a tune up on a Ferrari be by chance?
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