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Old 04-13-2013, 07:28   #1
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iMac rant...."ENGAGED"

As a few of you may know...I'm a PC guy.
Wifey is all "I". (Pod, Phone, Pad, Mini, BookPro and Mac-27"....throw in all the I-toys too...time machine, Apple TV, Some sort of WiFi router thing that none of our printers like to talk to....my house is full of little glossy white boxes.)

The IMac.....oh dear God the iMac.
It's sitting here behind me as I type on my little homemade i7 PC I built myself for $700 two years ago.
iMac is Dead as Jimmy Hoffa....again.
After being completely gutted for the third time in three months. (five times in the 1.5 years since it arrived).
Each time, I had to haul this heavy, unwieldy thing to a shopping mall 15 miles away, praying I don't drop it or let some mall door slam into it. Then....after a week in the shop...go pick it up and do it all again in reverse.

First the Thunderbolt ports stopped working. Repaired under Warranty.
Then one of the speakers. Replaced under warranty.
Then the power supply started screeching. Replaced under warranty.
Then lines began appearing on the screen. Replaced the video card under warranty...but then the machine wouldn't boot at the shop. So the hardrive was replaced.
We finally get the machine home....one week and blue screen.
We insist that we're not hauling this big heavy thing all the way back to the store we just picked it up from last week. They send a guy out who replaces the logic board and verifies all the connections are in spec.
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He then needs to reload the OS, which will take a couple hours. He leaves. The OS reloads, the computer boots....and we get an Apple logo....and then a white screen. Nuthin.
Apple says it sounds like the logic board. (again).
Can we bring it to the shop? (again....#6) Is there another option? Can you just replace this POS with a slightly less "S"-ier POS?
Then they say we have dirty power. Hmmm...none of the other electronics are having problems...and the iMac is living on a nearly new CyperPower AVR1500. It's getting the purest power of any component in the house! (regardless...the problems didn't start when we added the PSU, and they've continued since we've gotten it).

So, wifey is now trying to run her business on her MacBook Pro....and the fan is starting the whine (again...already replaced that once also).

I swear...if one more smug little kid says "If you wanna work ON your computer get a PC; if you wanna work WITH your computer get a Mac." I will shoot him....and his Mac.
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Was going to offer congratulations!!

But I think the original post might should have been "ENRAGED" not Engaged
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Old 04-13-2013, 07:52   #3
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wow man that sucks. we have an iMac that's three years old and a two year old MacBook Pro and have never had a problem with either.
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wow man that sucks. we have an iMac that's three years old and a two year old MacBook Pro and have never had a problem with either.
Here at the Flipper Estate we have happily been running iMacs and Powerbooks trouble free since 1988.
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Here at the Flipper Estate we have happily been running iMacs and Powerbooks trouble free since 1988.
Wow, your fellow gun grabbing liberal Al Gore must have hooked you up 10 years before they came out then!
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Posting from an ancient Mac Mini that never has had a problem. Also have a 15" Macbook Pro that is at least 4 years old all original except for the battery...

Kind of like anything else, you may have a lemon.
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Posting from an ancient Mac Mini that never has had a problem. Also have a 15" Macbook Pro that is at least 4 years old all original except for the battery...

Kind of like anything else, you may have a lemon.
Yep - when you build millions of something, one is bound to come out bad... Good luck with Apple's solution.

The posts above got me to thinking. My PC is 6 years old - Dell/Vista. I have over 30,000 hours run time on it. The fan is a little noisy. I think I'll replace it.
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Sounds like you got a lemon. Do you have Applecare on it still? Mine have had zero issues, ever. I love my iMac and all the toys I have synced to the iCloud with it.
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I LOL'ed when I read the caption "Photo of the iMac in its natural state."

Well that sucks. Yesterday I thought my new i7 Win7 system was FUBAR. Windows Update was bugging me to do an update. I had some time and told it to go ahead. Checked to see how much as the last one was only two weeks ago. Holy crap, 250 MB worth! Started it and continued to surf. About 30 seconds later the "uh-oh" sound came out of the speakers and my screens went blank.

Crap.

The HD light was going crazy so I left it alone for about an hour. At that point the HD light was now just flashing briefly about once a second and had been doing so for about 50 minutes. With nothing left to do I pressed the reset button and prayed. BIOS screen flashed up and then the screen that says "Windows did not shut down properly. What do you want to do?" I chose "Start Windows Normally" and then about peed myself when I saw the BIOS screen come up again.

However, it quickly booted to the login screen. I logged in and looked at the Update History and all the new updates were installed and everything appeared fine and 24 hours later it is just fine. Dodged one there...
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Every mac item ive acquired to date has been flawless. It sounds more like you have an unusual one-off lemon. Id demand they replace it. Shouldnt be hard considering the circumstances. Some states even have lemon laws id look into if theres a problem.
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Do you want me to post about my POS Dell or Gateway or HP?

When you have that many problems that other users are not having the problem points to you.

And iMacs weigh less than my old tower or my old CRT monitor alone, so calling it unwieldy and heavy makes you sound like a woman.
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And iMacs weigh less than my old tower or my old CRT monitor alone, so calling it unwieldy and heavy makes you sound like a woman.
A whole 12lbs. My wife was looking for a tower when I took mine out of the box, too funny.
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A whole 12lbs. My wife was looking for a tower when I took mine out of the box, too funny.
22 pounds...it's the big one.
It's not the weight...it's toting the big, slippery, delicate, EXPENSIVE computer back and forth and back and forth and back and forth and.....

Just took this....wifey, enjoying here iMac while talking to customer support. The screen is a lovely shade of white. It's very soothing.
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Do you want me to post about my POS Dell or Gateway or HP?

When you have that many problems that other users are not having the problem points to you.

And iMacs weigh less than my old tower or my old CRT monitor alone, so calling it unwieldy and heavy makes you sound like a woman.
Uh uh...another iBoy overcompensating for "something". Come on over big boy and you haul the damn thing across a crowded shopping mall parking lot, through the double doors and through the freakin food court....oh....and if it slips from your hand or someone lets a door slam into it....you owe me $2K. I've made the trip eight times and my wife's done it twice. Your turn.

The thing is...NOBODY ever says "If you wanna work ON your computer get a Mac; if you wanna work WITH your computer get a PC."

But every time I'm with my wife at the Mac store and we rib each other about our divided house with regards to PC/Mac....some smug little blue shirt-wearing twit will prattle off "If you wanna work ON your computer get a PC; if you wanna work WITH your computer get a Mac."

Nobody ever says PCs are perfect.
However, if anyone ever declares a Mac isn't anything other than PERFECT, they get attacked by iBoys.

Case in point, your post...i-Boy.
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Uh uh...another iBoy overcompensating for "something". Come on over big boy and you haul the damn thing across a crowded shopping mall parking lot, through the double doors and through the freakin food court....oh....and if it slips from your hand or someone lets a door slam into it....you owe me $2K. I've made the trip eight times and my wife's done it twice. Your turn.

The thing is...NOBODY ever says "If you wanna work ON your computer get a Mac; if you wanna work WITH your computer get a PC."

But every time I'm with my wife at the Mac store and we rib each other about our divided house with regards to PC/Mac....some smug little blue shirt-wearing twit will prattle off "If you wanna work ON your computer get a PC; if you wanna work WITH your computer get a Mac."

Nobody ever says PCs are perfect.
However, if anyone ever declares a Mac isn't anything other than PERFECT, they get attacked by iBoys.

Case in point, your post...i-Boy.
No, they have problems, but to have 5 problems points to something on your end. I don't care if it's Dell, Mac, or a Honda. Don't take it so personal MS fanboy.

I did take my macbook pro [my other computers are a homebuilt desktop, and 2 HP laptops] in once because I absolutely could not get it to connect to my wifi. When I got there, it connected fine. Still have issues with it at my house sometimes. If I change the network name it will connect again no problem. My solution is to keep two networks running and just hop on the other one when I have an issue. Haven't had the issue in a while though.
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Come on over big boy and you haul the damn thing across a crowded shopping mall parking lot, through the double doors and through the freakin food court....oh....and if it slips from your hand or someone lets a door slam into it....you owe me $2K. I've made the trip eight times and my wife's done it twice. Your turn.
So... just like any other product you can have repaired at a local service center? Except the ones that send a repairman out to your house... like they eventually did.

No one produces 100% perfect products. I know someone who is constantly leaving his Honda Civic with the dealership because they can't seem to fix the oil leak it's had since he bought it new.

You can build your own cheaper? Big whoop. I built mine, too. What I couldn't build myself is a mid to high end PC all fit inside the back of a monitor housing. And by the time I add the price of a quality IPS monitor to my own PC build the price difference isn't that huge. This is going to be the case with any laptop or integrated desktop, regardless of manufacturer.

You got a lemon iMac. That sucks. But none of these problems or expenses are worse with Apple than someone else. You've just used them to launch into another PC fanboy rant.
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You've just used them to launch into another PC fanboy rant.
Please....do tell me where I went onto another PC fanboy rant.
I'll wait...


The issue here is Apple customer support.
It is approaching that of Gateway and IBM....two prolific PC manufacturer....oh wait...they're not any more.
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Please....do tell me where I went onto another PC fanboy rant.
I'll wait...


The issue here is Apple customer support.
It is approaching that of Gateway and IBM....two prolific PC manufacturer....oh wait...they're not any more.
You mean the customer support that leads the industry 9 years in a row? That one?
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Uh uh...another iBoy overcompensating for "something". Come on over big boy and you haul the damn thing across a crowded shopping mall parking lot, through the double doors and through the freakin food court....oh....and if it slips from your hand or someone lets a door slam into it....you owe me $2K. I've made the trip eight times and my wife's done it twice. Your turn.

The thing is...NOBODY ever says "If you wanna work ON your computer get a Mac; if you wanna work WITH your computer get a PC."

But every time I'm with my wife at the Mac store and we rib each other about our divided house with regards to PC/Mac....some smug little blue shirt-wearing twit will prattle off "If you wanna work ON your computer get a PC; if you wanna work WITH your computer get a Mac."

Nobody ever says PCs are perfect.
However, if anyone ever declares a Mac isn't anything other than PERFECT, they get attacked by iBoys.

Case in point, your post...i-Boy.
I go WAY back......I was buying my 1st 286 back in the day. I was in a store that sold both Apple and PCs. The store rep was extolling the virtues of a Mac, and told the customer, "A Mac is pretty much idiot-proof". I leaned in and asked the customer, "Do you know WHY a Mac is "idiot-proof"?. The store rep looked at me, like he thought I was going to support his claim. I told the customer, "It's because only IDIOTS use them". The store rep asked me to leave. LOL. True story, guys. Keep your Macs, and all of the "I" crap. I know what works for me, and what is being used in todays business infrastructure. Try using SQL, Server 2008, SharePoint, or any of the many platforms that service the business world, on your Mac, and tell me how that works for you. Here endeth the lesson.
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I know what works for me, and what is being used in todays business infrastructure. Try using SQL, Server 2008, SharePoint, or any of the many platforms that service the business world, on your Mac, and tell me how that works for you. Here endeth the lesson.
But I don't use SQL, Server 2008, SharePoint, or any of the many platforms that service the business world. Should I still buy a PC?

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I go WAY back......I was buying my 1st 286 back in the day.
My first computer was a TRS-80.
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I go WAY back......I was buying my 1st 286 back in the day. I was in a store that sold both Apple and PCs. The store rep was extolling the virtues of a Mac, and told the customer, "A Mac is pretty much idiot-proof". I leaned in and asked the customer, "Do you know WHY a Mac is "idiot-proof"?. The store rep looked at me, like he thought I was going to support his claim. I told the customer, "It's because only IDIOTS use them". The store rep asked me to leave. LOL. True story, guys. Keep your Macs, and all of the "I" crap. I know what works for me, and what is being used in todays business infrastructure. Try using SQL, Server 2008, SharePoint, or any of the many platforms that service the business world, on your Mac, and tell me how that works for you. Here endeth the lesson.
My wife is a business analyst for a large international tech company, and she does write SQU code on an iMac.
Also, do you think Apple uses PC's to run their business? I know for a fact that they do not and that on the occasion that they do need to use Windows only software, they just run Windows on the Mac.

PC's and Macs are both nothing more than tools and each have their place and specific uses. Saying that one platform is only used by idiots, tells me that someone is pretty closed minded.
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My wife is a business analyst for a large international tech company, and she does write SQU code on an iMac.
Also, do you think Apple uses PC's to run their business? I know for a fact that they do not and that on the occasion that they do need to use Windows only software, they just run Windows on the Mac.

PC's and Macs are both nothing more than tools and each have their place and specific uses. Saying that one platform is only used by idiots, tells me that someone is pretty closed minded.
Not close-minded, at all. The story I told was meant as a joke. Use what ever OS works for you. It's like which is better.....a Kimber, or a Glock?. We could have that debate for the next century. I use what works for me....in computers, as well as personal choices in weapons. Stay safe. I found this:


Benefits of connecting a Mac to a Windows fileserver


Mac OS 10.4 now includes a variety of technologies that enable it and Windows to work seamlessly together. This is good news for a number of reasons, as we can now:
• Integrate Mac computers into Windows networks that use Active Directory, Microsoft Exchange, and Kerberos
• Access files on Windows file servers or make files on a Mac available to Windows users
• Exchange email (including attachments) with Windows users
• Share the same network with Windows PCs using dial-up, Ethernet, or 802.11b/g (Wi-Fi, AirPort Extreme) wireless connections.

Surely you would agree that most of the known world uses a Windows-based system to communicate with the outside world. If that were not true, why would Mac create and build an OS that is designed to work within a Windows environment?



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I went Mac the day or day after Windows 8 came out, and I have no desire to change back. It is a simple little Mac Mini, but I'm super happy with it. In reference to computers sandwiched into a screen, I don't know if that is a good idea or not.
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Sometimes a system is cursed. Have seen 2-3 PC's over my life that were fully replaced and still had gremlins.


I own or have owned. . . 6 Macs. Only one ever had problems. Had to bring it in 3x to get it fixed. It was a bizarre glitch in some wire.

One Mac and you think they all suck is a small sample set. But you should be at the "replace this machine" level at 6 trips to the store.
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BTW, lots of people have tried to say PCs were perfect. It's just that their computers crashed before they hit the submit button so the posts never make it to the internet.
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