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Old 04-11-2013, 17:08   #1
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How prepared are you for Nukes? Really...

Obviously, a direct hit is a moot point. But after we get outside the serious destruction and vaporization zone, how well geared up (Knowledge, skill, and materials) are you to survive?

Me, not really at all. I've got a lot of other things on my list above that. A lot of my current preps would help me avoid exposure, but I don't pack iodine, lead lined rooms, gieger counters etc...I just feel that a lot of Nuke survival would be about highly specialized gear, lots of training, and in reality I'd have neither and be fooling myself. But I could be wrong.

Just an entertaining consideration, given NK's wackiness. You know what if they had channeled all there efforts into one stealthy bird and it actually caught a good tailwind, and USAF failed to respond due to disbelief it could happen, etc...

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Old 04-11-2013, 17:10   #2
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I'd like to hear from GT folks who have experienced a nuclear holocaust

really give some insight into "how well geared up" one should be.
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Old 04-11-2013, 17:51   #3
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This is why I have always lived near a "First Strike" target. The rest of you can sit around and think about how long you have until you are going to die, I'll be dust blowing in the wind.
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Old 04-11-2013, 18:24   #4
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Aceman, You know that McDill Air Force Base is a very likely target right? We also have 3 Nuke power plants here?

We only live 40 miles south of McDill, not sure preparing is an option for us either. We have NBC masks and potassium iodate pills but not too many.
Looking forward to more ideas on how one would plan for such an incident also.
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Old 04-11-2013, 18:42   #5
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Aceman, You know that McDill Air Force Base is a very likely target right? We also have 3 Nuke power plants here?

We only live 40 miles south of McDill, not sure preparing is an option for us either. We have NBC masks and potassium iodate pills but not too many.
Looking forward to more ideas on how one would plan for such an incident also.
And thus I don't worry about it. I'll either be totally immune, or totally ionized.
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Old 04-11-2013, 18:26   #6
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This is one of the things that you can only do so much for. Gas masks, NBC suits and the like can only be used for limited periods of time and require a great deal of logistical support that is beyond most of us.
From a poor memory, some basic things you can do about preventing some of the effects of radiological threats:
-particulate masks
-food and water from clean sources
-potassium iodate tablets
-ensure that you're under cover from any fallout material
-long handled bristle brushes and plenty of water to decon when moving back indoors.

I have some of my manuals outside, I'll try to look up some material later. Not sure how much would be applicable to civilians
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Old 04-11-2013, 18:36   #7
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For the average prepper..

Download NWSS, read it & buy a hard copy

http://www.oism.org/nwss/


If you assimilate the data in the book & are capable of utilizing it post-strike..

..then you are light years ahead of the clueless poor souls in the majority.


As for me......I am not the average prepper & have many preps of this nature I hope to never use!

For if I do.....woe to you!
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Old 04-11-2013, 21:05   #8
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For the average prepper..

Download NWSS, read it & buy a hard copy

http://www.oism.org/nwss/


If you assimilate the data in the book & are capable of utilizing it post-strike..

..then you are light years ahead of the clueless poor souls in the majority.


As for me......I am not the average prepper & have many preps of this nature I hope to never use!

For if I do.....woe to you!
Great book!

There are a number of Cresson H. Kearny (Author of Nuclear War Survival Skills) videos on youtube as I recall.

Lots of free resources here (and some not so free ones also)
http://www.radmeters4u.com/
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Old 04-11-2013, 21:59   #9
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Well, took us 2 1/2 hours but we got the NWSS book loaded to thumb drive and down to 475 pages to print... Then we went on to Amazon and immediately found 22 of the books used for $12.85 plus shipping... what an evening, I love my wife.
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Old 04-11-2013, 23:40   #10
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Well, took us 2 1/2 hours but we got the NWSS book loaded to thumb drive and down to 475 pages to print... Then we went on to Amazon and immediately found 22 of the books used for $12.85 plus shipping... what an evening, I love my wife.
Nice!

All 22 books for $12.85......or $12.85 each?

Either way ....nice score!
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Old 04-11-2013, 23:46   #11
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I'm not. You're not. None of us are.

I was a NBC training NCO in the Marines.
Nukes suck but not as bad as Bio.
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:00   #12
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I'm not. You're not. None of us are.

I was a NBC training NCO in the Marines.
Nukes suck but not as bad as Bio.
This^^^

Right after 9/11 I am watching every idiot buying gas masks...and have no flipping clue how to use it. Most of them had the wrong filters let alone how to don the mask and purge it.

Then I am watching on the news on "How to use the gasmask"...and the dumb butt brought the mask up from his waste to his face...guess what he just scooped up...

Hell, I worked directly with Minuteman III's, GLCM's, SHRAMS..and those little bio/chem things we were not supposed to have. And even though we were highly trained, live it with everyday, they told us that we would experience a 30 to 40% mortality rate.

I guess it is a good thing we are at least aware of it...but the only thing I know that will increase your chances is to move to an area that has no target priority.
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Old 04-16-2013, 11:14   #13
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not prepared at all for nukes/radiation in the actual hot or even warm zone...

I don't believe that I (or the overwhelming vast majority of people for that matter) can be fully prepared for everything. I know a fair amount about radiation, but don't know near enough NOR do I care to spend the time and effort to learn more about it. Acquiring and maintaining the equipment that would be necessary to effectively "prepare" for a nuclear attack is simply not gonna happen at my place.

We prepare for everything "in general" and very few "specifically". Radiation is a long shot, but the affected human "fallout" of people in a post-attack, chaotic nation is my main source of concern.
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Old 04-17-2013, 10:50   #14
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I'm not. You're not. None of us are.

I was a NBC training NCO in the Marines.
Nukes suck but not as bad as Bio.
+1

Doesn't take a factory full of centrifuges to produce a weapon of mass destruction.

These guys took a virus with a >50% mortality rate that wasn't transmissible when one coughed/sneezed, and gave it the ability to jump via aerosol (cough/sneeze).

http://www.sciencemag.org/content/33.../1534.abstract
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Old 04-13-2013, 14:23   #15
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Nice!

All 22 books for $12.85......or $12.85 each?

Either way ....nice score!

Sorry $12.85 each... If it was the other way I'd buy them all and give them out to anyone interested.

http://www.oism.org/nwss/
Thanx for the link LG 1, good read.


I like the post from G29Reload also...

Good thread Aceman, very good information here.
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Old 04-11-2013, 22:39   #16
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Tin foil doesn't work for nukes?

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Old 04-12-2013, 05:57   #17
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LG1 - Great link!

A lot of the stuff was prepper 101, but a whole lot was very informative!
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:10   #18
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Really the only prep I have for it beyond my normal preps is some potassium iodate tablets. So,.....not really at all.
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I don't think even the .mil is really prepared for that.

Especially considering the size of the warheads the countries capable of hitting the US boast.
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I live close to downtown L.A. so I prep by not worrying about it since I will be gone as soon as I see the flash. Besides, who wants to live in a post-nuclear disaster world where you have to worry about rampaging 3 eyed cannibal mutants?
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