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Old 02-24-2013, 14:59   #1
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Daytona 500 Thoughts

I tried to watch the race, and as usual, it made for good background noise for a nap. I did wake up to see Jimmy Johnson win.

NASCAR just seems so "meh" since Dale died.

F1 and WRC are where it's at for me now.
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Old 02-24-2013, 15:03   #2
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Jimmy Johnson won a NASCAR race? I'm shocked. Lol
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Old 02-24-2013, 15:14   #3
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Restless, i feel the same way. i was at the 500 Dale won. talk about magic in the air. even his haters were clapping. after he died, the already commercial sport seemed to be more and more about the sponsors, until, like you, the races became good nap noise. nowadays, i doubt i know half of the drivers' names. (though it is cool that Mark Martin is still getting it done!)
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Old 02-24-2013, 15:15   #4
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I watched it from start to finish and it was okay, not the best. I'm not a fan of pack racing but it is a lot better than recently with the two car tandems running away from eachother.
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Old 02-24-2013, 15:23   #5
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Im with Restless on this one I also was there for Dales Win and it has not been the same sine he got Killed.
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Old 02-24-2013, 15:49   #6
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Im with Restless on this one I also was there for Dales Win and it has not been the same sine he got Killed.
It wasn't just that. That was a big event, but the change had begun a few years before that. I live and grew up about 6 or 8 miles for Talladega.

I remember drivers working on cars in the parking lot of the hotel before they could get to the pits on race week. Me and a bud was just discussing this on FB. -- Back when it was all about the win, and little about the advertising. Drivers were not much interested being good corporate spokesmen, but rather more interested in wringing out the last 1/4 HP out of a huge engine. There weren't any multi-million dollar test tunnels and computer programs to test your car, but nothing more a quiet Wednesday afternoon without the crowds and fans, and a man with a HUGE sack that allow him to push a car to the limit of physics and horse power, that limit not yet to be defined by engineers in white coats, thousands of miles from a speedway, but rather set by whether or not the driver made the lap or ended up being cut out of a twisted, destroyed puzzle of steel resting at the end of a high banked turn. Real men driving real cars. Pioneers of the sport, not unlike the actual pioneers of centuries ago, the least among them would be giants among their modern "peers".
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Old 02-25-2013, 06:27   #7
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I watched it from start to finish and it was okay, not the best. I'm not a fan of pack racing but it is a lot better than recently with the two car tandems running away from eachother.
The two car tandems made for the closest finishes in NASCAR history.
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Old 02-24-2013, 15:21   #8
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I grew up a NASCAR fan. The 80s and 90s were the apex of the sport. Bobby and Davey, Ernie, Kyle, Rusty, Dale, Rudd, Waltrip, Gant, Martin, Terry Labonte, etc.

Those guys were NASCAR to me. Today's drivers are boring and the great tracks are gone, replaced with cookie cutter tri ovals.

I think I'll watch some Senna footage to brighten my day.
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:26   #9
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I grew up a NASCAR fan. The 80s and 90s were the apex of the sport. Bobby and Davey, Ernie, Kyle, Rusty, Dale, Rudd, Waltrip, Gant, Martin, Terry Labonte, etc.

Those guys were NASCAR to me. Today's drivers are boring and the great tracks are gone, replaced with cookie cutter tri ovals.
Me too. I only listened to the last 20 laps on the radio while I was quilting and was really bored.

The cars aren't stock and most of the drivers are pretty boys.

I remember my dad reading the paper on Sunday afternoon with the race on the tv. Gosh, I miss those days...
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Old 02-24-2013, 17:02   #10
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Reckon NASCAR will ever get rid of the 350ci push rod V-8s and rear wheel drive in favor of setups currently in production - quad cam V-6 crosswise with front wheel drive? Might get rid of the restrictor plates and thus open up the packs and make it more interesting.


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Old 02-24-2013, 17:35   #11
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I was a diehard fan from '87 until Martin left Rouch. It's just not the same anymore, I did have it on as background noise to see how Danica would do. Was happy to see where Mark finished.

I have a cat named Mark and another named Martin!
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Old 02-24-2013, 17:38   #12
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Old 02-24-2013, 17:39   #13
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Nascar is better the ever. More competition, more good teams. Richard Petty would have never won 200 races in the modern era.
Drivers represent all corners of the U.S. and Australia, and South America.
The best US drivers now gravitate to Nascar, cause thats where the money is.
Dale Earnhardt is the distant past. Get over it.
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Old 02-24-2013, 17:45   #14
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Too many changes in too short a time period. NASCAR keeps scrambling with different formulas, which leads to cautious driving. It happened today. Dale Jr. goes around Johnson if he makes his move a little earlier.
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Old 02-24-2013, 17:54   #15
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Let's remember this guy who died earlier this week but was able to participate in Daytona 500 activities this past week, but couldn't make it to today for the race. Great story. This was a week of ups and downs for Daytona, best wishes and prayers for the fans that were injured on Saturday.


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Nascar is better the ever. More competition, more good teams. Richard Petty would have never won 200 races in the modern era.
Drivers represent all corners of the U.S. and Australia, and South America.
The best US drivers now gravitate to Nascar, cause thats where the money is.
Dale Earnhardt is the distant past. Get over it.
So wrong on so many levels. The best foreign drivers aspire to be F1 drivers and WRC drivers.

I know that isn't NASCAR PR Gospel, but it's true.
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Old 02-24-2013, 17:56   #17
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So wrong on so many levels. The best foreign drivers aspire to be F1 drivers and WRC drivers.

I know that isn't NASCAR PR Gospel, but it's true.

No, the best foreign computer operators run F1. And World Rally is a minor league sport.
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Old 02-27-2013, 20:10   #18
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Dale Earnhardt is the distant past. Get over it.
Not actually. Dale Earnhardt, Daryl Waltrip, Bill Elliot, and other drivers of the eighties were really the beginning of the modern NASCAR drivers. The real forerunners of NASCAR that built the fan loyalty were guys like Fireball Roberts, the Pearsons, the Flock brothers, Lee Petty, Buck Baker, and Junior Johnson.

Dale Earnhardt (the senior) was unique in that he could have fit into the NASCAR mold for drivers of any era. Winning was important to him; but he also understood the need for marketing skills.
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Reckon NASCAR will ever get rid of the 350ci push rod V-8s and rear wheel drive in favor of setups currently in production - quad cam V-6 crosswise with front wheel drive? Might get rid of the restrictor plates and thus open up the packs and make it more interesting.


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Any loss of traction results in both throttle and steering controls to be useless. When you spin a drive wheel at 200MPH, you'd really better have your steering work properly, which won't happen if the steered wheels are busy spinning.

(From experience, you overcook a corner in a rear wheel car, or motorcycle, hang the rear wheels out some and power your way back into the corner. In a front wheel drive car, you just slide out of the corner into whatever is off the side of the rode)
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Glad to see Danica finally got her stuff straightened out.
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What happened to Danica? 3rd with two laps to go, then suddenly she's dropping back and finishes 8th? Was she on her cell phone or what? Rookie mistake...Saying that, 8th ain't bad. I did think that the celebrity that got the race started was a bit condescending when he said "Drivers and Danica start your engines." If you make the big dance you are a driver period.
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What happened to Danica? 3rd with two laps to go, then suddenly she's dropping back and finishes 8th? Was she on her cell phone or what? Rookie mistake...Saying that, 8th ain't bad. I did think that the celebrity that got the race started was a bit condescending when he said "Drivers and Danica start your engines." If you make the big dance you are a driver period.
Same thing happened to her as happened to Greg Biffle, who went from 2nd to 6ht. Is his a rookie mistake, too?

What I, personally, think happened is they both lifted for just a moment, thinking there was going to be a caution thrown. At Daytona (and Talladega), it only takes that fraction of a second off the gas to drop in the pack.

Never ceases to amaze how many people seem to WANT Patrick to fail....
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she wont fail at controversy ,making money , looking good , but she will never win a nascar race much less a title . only way she wins a race if everyone crashes out .

shes eye candy to the sport that needs ratings , nothing more
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she wont fail at controversy ,making money , looking good , but she will never win a nascar race much less a title . only way she wins a race if everyone crashes out .

shes eye candy to the sport that needs ratings , nothing more
If she's good enough of a driver to win the pole she's good enough to win a race and I think she will eventually. She beat a bunch of good drivers. I don't follow NASCAR and I am not really a fan of hers but I watched just to see how she did. I thought she got owned at the end but so did a bunch of other drivers.
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she wont fail at controversy ,making money , looking good , but she will never win a nascar race much less a title . only way she wins a race if everyone crashes out .

shes eye candy to the sport that needs ratings , nothing more
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