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Old 02-15-2013, 15:39   #1
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Glock Employer said only 124 grain

I recently got my G17 gen 4 back from Glock because of a BTF issue. They didn't fix it, and said I need to be shooting 124 grain ammo.

"The gen4 Glocks are made to be a military pistol and are built to handle a higher pressure load. The reason you are getting BTF is because you are shooting Winchester 115 grain." (Of which I have a bulk pack of 1000 of...)

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Old 02-15-2013, 15:40   #2
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My Gen 4 G19 has only seen 115 grain ammo of all types. I have not had a BTF yet...
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Old 02-16-2013, 09:35   #3
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My Gen 4 G19 has only seen 115 grain ammo of all types. I have not had a BTF yet...
What he said ^^^^

I'd also add that I've been going thru a case of Sellier & Bellot 115gr that ejects like crazy. Listed at 1280FPS, slightly hotter than WW and Federal. Hard to get right now though.

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Old 02-15-2013, 15:46   #4
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I recently got my G17 gen 4 back from Glock because of a BTF issue. They didn't fix it, and said I need to be shooting 124 grain ammo.

"The gen4 Glocks are made to be a military pistol and are built to handle a higher pressure load. The reason you are getting BTF is because you are shooting Winchester 115 grain." (Of which I have a bulk pack of 1000 of...)

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Old 02-15-2013, 16:14   #5
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What is BTF
Its depends on who/where you ask...in General Glocking video #1 applies, in the GNG videos 2 to 4 apply and in the adult entertainment industry it means "Built to........."









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Old 02-15-2013, 16:03   #6
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Old 02-15-2013, 17:26   #7
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I had trouble with the Gen-4 with FTE and FTF issues. I called Glock and they said that the gun was designed to be shot with NATO spec ammo with the higher pressures. I read several articles about the issue and got a new recoil spring assembly specifically designed for the Gen-4 from Glockmeister and haven't had any trouble since.
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Old 02-15-2013, 17:47   #8
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That's a bunch of BS. There are too many other guns out there that are as good and better than a Glock to have to put up with that crap. Sell it and buy something from a company that stands behind their product.

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Old 02-16-2013, 18:23   #9
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That's a bunch of BS. There are too many other guns out there that are as good and better than a Glock to have to put up with that crap. Sell it and buy something from a company that stands behind their product.

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Old 02-15-2013, 17:48   #10
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An interesting statement from Glock. Are they backing away from their long-standing statement about Glocks functioning with any commercially available ammo meeting SAAMI specs?
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An interesting statement from Glock. Are they backing away from their long-standing statement about Glocks functioning with any commercially available ammo meeting SAAMI specs?
He didn't say it didn't function, he said it he was taking BTF.
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He didn't say it didn't function, he said it he was taking BTF.
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Old 02-16-2013, 07:44   #13
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Old 02-15-2013, 18:07   #14
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I recently got my G17 gen 4 back from Glock because of a BTF issue. They didn't fix it, and said I need to be shooting 124 grain ammo.

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Isn't there an updated ejector out now?
For 9x19:
There are two different extractors with different geometry. Check to see which one you have. The older style is 90 degree, the newer is 15 degree. Your Gen 4 should have a 15 to match the slide cut. It should be correct, particularly with glock evaluating it, but worth a look. Also, the LCI extractors have a different spring-loaded bearing than the non-LCI extractors. Check the extractor, ejector, and spring-loaded bearing. The bearing doesn't have a visible part number (I can't see one, anyway) but should be black for 9mm and the one for LCI is longer than the non-LCI.
See page 2 here:
[URL]http://glockparts.com/Products.aspx?CAT=734[/URL]

LCI extractor SP01895
Bearing 2714 for use with above
Ejector ...336? 30274?

The ejector should be slightly bent as seen from the top.

If all the parts are correct, you could take a known good gun (same model) and swap the pertinent parts as a test.

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Old 02-15-2013, 18:07   #15
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That's stupid as hell.
It's a Glock, it's supposed to run with whatever.
I have shot maybe 300 rounds through my late model gen 3 G17 with 115 grain ammo exclusively. The other day one of the rounds grazed my hair as it flew by, but otherwise all positive 3-4 O'Clock ejection.
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Old 02-15-2013, 18:12   #16
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Is that what they are telling customers when they can't
fix a pistol?
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Old 02-15-2013, 18:15   #17
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Glock employer? Who employs Glock?

Seriously, Winchester USA 115-gr should do fine in any 9mm Glock. Federal Champion 115-gr FMJ is questionably in any new 9mm pistol regardless of make or model.
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Old 02-15-2013, 18:28   #18
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BS from Glock! My G26 & G17- Gen3 never had a problem with 115 gr, & I use this grain 90% of the time. I mainly use the W White box 115gr. It takes & spits out all 9mm ammo!
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Old 02-18-2013, 23:04   #19
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My G26 & G17- Gen3


Key word gen 3. The gen 4 was specified.... Pfffft.
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Glock employer? Who employs Glock?

Seriously, Winchester USA 115-gr should do fine in any 9mm Glock. Federal Champion 115-gr FMJ is questionably in any new 9mm pistol regardless of make or model.
FAIL. None of the ammo is questionably in my pistols.......


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