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Old 01-30-2013, 13:19   #1
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Getting into reloading

I am about to buy a reloading setup. What I have decided on is a progressive loader. I want it as easy and dummy proof as I can get. I want to be able to pull the lever and a round come out.

I read this thread http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1027887 and I think I know what I need.

This is what I have decided on. Please let me know if I am missing anything.

Press: Hornady LnL AutoPress with all the shell plates for my calibers
Dial Calipers: Harbor Freight http://www.harborfreight.com/6-inch-...per-47257.html
Tumbler: RCBS http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/6-0810457 w/Corncob media
Bench: Still working on this.
Dies: RCBS 40, 45, 9, 223, 38/357 for now
2 manuals: Lymans & Hornady
Powder Scale: RCBS 505 http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/6-0800875
Case trimmer for rifle cases: Lyman http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/6-0810747
Bullet Puller: RCBS Power pull hammer

Am I missing anything? I am open to suggestions too. Like where to by the press that has it in stock.
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Old 01-30-2013, 13:38   #2
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I am about to buy a reloading setup. What I have decided on is a progressive loader that I just dump the stuff into and go. I want it as easy and dummy proof as I can get. I want to be able to pull the lever and a round come out.
That is a horrible idea. Learn to process with less automation not more automation.

People often think more is better and in this situation it can make you lazy and inattentive. It also will lead to a much steeper learning curve that is far more likely to lead to mistakes. Simpler is better.

Start with out all the add on devices for Cases and Bullets.
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Old 01-30-2013, 13:42   #3
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I am not learning the process. I used to reload with a single stage press but that was years ago. I have carpal tunnel in both wrists now and an injured elbow so I need this process to be easy on the arms and hands. My hands go numb shooting my AR after about 4 pmags so I want to take it easy on them.

I should have mentioned that but I did not think it would be an issue. That is my fault as the title is misleading. It should say getting BACK into reloading.

I am asking for a double check if you will over my list. It has been about 8 years since I last reloaded.
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Old 01-30-2013, 13:51   #4
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Disregard. I see what you highlighted now. That was supposed to be taken out. That is when I was looking into the Dillon Ammo Plant. My apologies. I will correct the OP.
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Old 01-30-2013, 14:02   #5
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I am about to buy a reloading setup. What I have decided on is a progressive loader. I want it as easy and dummy proof as I can get. I want to be able to pull the lever and a round come out.
Am I missing anything? I am open to suggestions too. Like where to by the press that has it in stock.
Just buy factory ammo. You can NOT approach reloading w/ a handle puller attitude. That is a Darwin project at work & a KB waiting to happen. Relaoding is not rocket science, but to do it right & safely, YOU MUST BE DILIGENT. Handle pullers need not apply, sorry. Reloading isn't for everyone, why there are ammo manuf.
Every press made requires you pull the handle, unless you want to buy a Camdex, $8-$10K. A 1050 wis probably the smoothest, easiest press to run, but it's complicated to setup & change over.
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Old 01-30-2013, 14:46   #6
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You guys are missing the gist of the OP. I know I will have to pull the handle and I know it requires diligence. I am not new to reloading or reloading mistakes.

Nevermind. I guess I worded my request wrong. You can disregard this post. I will get my information another way. I do appreciate you taking the time to respond so far.
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You guys are missing the gist of the OP. I know I will have to pull the handle and I know it requires diligence. I am not new to reloading or reloading mistakes.

Nevermind. I guess I worded my request wrong. You can disregard this post. I will get my information another way. I do appreciate you taking the time to respond so far.
If you have carpel tunnel I would get the 650. MUCH easier to push to prime then the LnL. Even better would be the 1050 that has no push to prime at all and is very smooth and easy to use. I fear the LnL would be too hard on your damaged parts.
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Would you say it is harder than a Lee Single stage? That is what I had last.
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Old 01-30-2013, 15:09   #9
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Would you say it is harder than a Lee Single stage? That is what I had last.
If you do some Googling, you will find there is no shortage of threads complaining about the amount of force required to prime on the LNL. I read one post a while ago that said Hornady told him he needed "75lbs of force" to prime on the LNL. I've never used an LNL, but that seems pretty ridiculous.

If you have carpal tunnel, I would look somewhere other than the LNL, but that's just me. I personally love the 650. The 1050 gets rave reviews, but it's not really designed to change calibers that often, not to mention, it is expensive.

I'd also recommend starting with 1, straight wall pistol case until you get the hang of things, then move on to rifle.

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Old 02-02-2013, 12:34   #10
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If you have carpel tunnel I would get the 650. MUCH easier to push to prime then the LnL. Even better would be the 1050 that has no push to prime at all and is very smooth and easy to use. I fear the LnL would be too hard on your damaged parts.
I have the 550B, so am I understanding this correctly, the 650 takes less pressure to operate, or is that just compared to the LnL?

Also, how does the 1050 feed the primer differently, without pushing? Perhaps I can find a video that shows how it works.

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Old 02-02-2013, 12:53   #11
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The 550 and 650 use the exact same handle I am betting that it is the same. I haven't used a 550 in a while but I don't remember the 650 being easier than the 550 was. Maybe someone who has both will answer. But the LNL takes a lot more pressure than the 650.
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I have the 550B, so am I understanding this correctly, the 650 takes less pressure to operate, or is that just compared to the LnL?

Also, how does the 1050 feed the primer differently, without pushing? Perhaps I can find a video that shows how it works.

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There is a slide under the primer magazine that moves a primer under the case.

The primer is ready and waiting for the down handle stroke where it is inserted into the case.

It's a completely different feeling when you prime on the downstroke. In fact, you really don't even know you are priming.

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It's harder then my Lee Classic Turret, Dillon 550 and 650 by about 50%. It's really had to judge that effort. I got tired of the LnL because of that exact issue.
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For the record. Hornady is even on record that their press takes more pressure to push to prime then a Dillon. They say about 75lbs IIRC. It's a lot.
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For the record. Hornady is even on record that their press takes more pressure to push to prime then a Dillon. They say about 75lbs IIRC. It's a lot.
I have never even for once thougth that priming with a LnL was hard, this is news to me. Now it may be harder than a Dillon, but hard???? eat some protein and pick up some iron just picking don't get mad,

Not intended for individual who started the thread, just surprised to hear that about the LnL.

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I have never even for once thougth that priming with a LnL was hard, this is news to me. Now it may be harder than a Dillon, but hard???? eat some protein and pick up some iron just picking don't get mad,

Not intended for individual who started the thread, just surprised to hear that about the LnL.
It's the poor desig of the primer delivery, not how much force you apply. My buddy machined a slighlty longer priming punch to get his to seat properly. The Dillon's don't suffer from this. Plus the 650's rotary delivery system is far superior to the LNL. I have maybe 10K rounds thru my 650 now, It's never hicupped once priming. That alone is worth the $100 higher price over a LNL
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I don't have one, but my understanding is the 1050 rpimes on the downstroke in a separate stn. So priming is more effortless.
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Old 02-03-2013, 18:00   #17
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Not an expert on progressive presses. I guess I am lucky I have about 5k through my LnL thus far no issue yet and primers seat good. Prior to using LnL I hand primed everything so I am picky. Had I read all this I would have continued to hand prime. Glad I didn't
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I don't have carpal tunnel, but I DO have rheumatoid arthritis, which ends up with very similar symptoms in my wrist/hands. I've found that the Dillon is the smoothest/easiest progressive press when it comes to priming.

I'm pretty sure you can hook up a bullet feeder to the 650 (definitely the 1050?) and with the casefeeder, it'd be pretty much just 'pull the handle and go'...

Whatever you decide, welcome back to the reloading world and good luck!
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If you have the budget for it a Dillon 1050 with a bullet feeder and a Ponsness/Warren drive would be the best answer.
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Old 01-31-2013, 06:44   #20
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Thanks, that is exactly what I was looking for. I like Dillon's line much better but Hornady's prices were better but if it buys me wrist comfort, then Dillon it is. Maybe I can actually find those in stock. I never thought of the pressure needed to work the machine, only the action. Glad I posted this.
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