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Old 01-21-2013, 18:11   #1
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permanent shift that is irreversable

so i heard on the radio today that "the country has turned to the left/liberal"

and that the "tea party/republican/bitter white old men" type has had its last "gasp"

and that the country has seen the last of it and now its shifted left and liberal permanently and that its irreversable.


not sure how i feel about that statement other than that if it turned left it can turn around again and go right,

"permenently center left" i think is not possible or permanent in any direction is not possible,


what do yall think of that persons statements?
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Old 01-21-2013, 18:12   #2
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Wait'll the economy crashes ...

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Old 01-21-2013, 18:13   #3
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crashing economy? how would that have to do with left or right wingers?
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Old 01-21-2013, 18:27   #4
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crashing economy? how would that have to do with left or right wingers?
When things go to hell the give me give me crowd generally doesn't fare too well. When they don't get it given to them and try to take it things get real ugly real fast.
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When things go to hell the give me give me crowd generally doesn't fare too well. When they don't get it given to them and try to take it things get real ugly real fast.


like looting and stealing from other people?

are they not afraid of being shot?

i would NEVER even THINK of stealing from someone like that, a life may be taken for somethning that costs a few bucks
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crashing economy? how would that have to do with left or right wingers?
Well there is a difference. One is tax and spend, the other is don't tax, and spend anyway.
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When the SHTF, the cream will rise to the top. Liberals are selfish, immoral, and lazy creatures. They won't fare too well when fortunes take a turn for the worse.
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When the SHTF, the cream will rise to the top. Liberals are selfish, immoral, and lazy creatures. They won't fare too well when fortunes take a turn for the worse.


good post man, thanks for that. it made me a little more optimistic
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I think the shift to the left is irreversible. The left will continue to be voted in with greater margins because there are more takers than makers. And the left will continue to tell the takers that there’s nothing wrong with that and we’ll help you to continue receiving your checks.

Eventually, of course, the government will collapse into bankruptcy as they run out of "other people's money". There will be anarchy and rioting when the checks finally stop coming in for the takers. What rises from this calamity is anyone’s guess.
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:11   #10
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When the SHTF, the cream will rise to the top. Liberals are selfish, immoral, and lazy creatures. They won't fare too well when fortunes take a turn for the worse.

SPOT ON!! Libs are three meals from rioting as it is. When the free-stuffers realize that their gravy train has derailed on the failed bridge to "fairness", we'll see a big swing to the right. Someone has to work to feed these poor slobs....
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The Philly and Richmond Fed branches have reported BIG misses on economic growth (biggest since 09), plus rail traffic, after being pretty stable for the past four years, just took a big drop.
Benji better get a move on.
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crashing economy? how would that have to do with left or right wingers?
I take it you didn't pass economics in either high school or college?
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crashing economy? how would that have to do with left or right wingers?
When you have more people putting into the economic pool (Read, educated right wingers) the economy continues to grow, providing for all.

When you have more people taking out of the economic pool, it shrinks, maybe to the point of extinction, providing for none.

5th grade economics.
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Attitudes change dramatically based on your level of skin in the game.

I remember in High School, which was a long time ago, that a teacher once defined a New Conservative as a Liberal that's just been mugged.

Two weeks of bare grocery store shelves will change a lot of peoples ideas about a lot of things.
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Wait'll the economy crashes ...

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Uh, I believe it did crash just over four years ago (2nd worst in US history) and the country turned left.
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Aw, geez!
I had posted a magnificent gem of a response only to have 'Glock database error' dump it like trash.
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Uh, I believe it did crash just over four years ago (2nd worst in US history) and the country turned left.
No, the big crash where the dollar collapses and we default on our loans. This is coming soon and will lead to one of two scenarios: this country waking up and adopting a newfound sense of fiscal restraint, or complete societal breakdown leading to martial law and government tyranny. Either scenario potentially involves people going after corrupt political/business elites, which is why gun control is being pushed so heavily right now.
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Either scenario potentially involves people going after corrupt political/business elites, which is why gun control is being pushed so heavily right now.


when i read that, i about crapped myself, i knew things are happening and they dont want an uprising of an armed populace,

but to say it like that really scares me ALOT,

and in other words they KNOW they are screwing up the country and economy and they dont want any resistance when it happens,


why would they PURPOSELY ruin the economy and country?

why do they want to enslave us? what benefit would that give them to be in complete power? obama is already the most POWERFUL man in the free world, there isnt much more he could obtain, so again, having said that, why does he want total control? what else could he gain?
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Old 01-22-2013, 10:30   #19
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HexHead nailed it.

Changing demographics.

I would also add the Permanent Militarization and Perpetual War practices of America which soaks up an incredible amount of money... making that money unavailable for real growth and investment in the economy.

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why would they PURPOSELY ruin the economy and country?
Google "Cloward and Piven".

In a nutshell, it's about swelling the welfare rolls to the point the entire system collapses and putting the government in control of most, if not all, private enterprises.

And these left-wing loons think this will actually work.
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and in other words they KNOW they are screwing up the country and economy and they dont want any resistance when it happens,


why would they PURPOSELY ruin the economy and country?
The progressives (Marxists) genuinely believe that communism was a good system. The mass killings were either justified for the greater good or simply the result of a bad leader, not the result of a flawed ideology. The Soviet Union didn't collapse due to a flawed ideology but due to interference from the U.S. They believe that if every major country goes full-blown Marxist at the same time, then Marxism will work this time. Aside from these diehard ideologues, there are also just a lot of greedy, power-hungry sociopaths floating around...which was/is common in communist/fascist countries as well.
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when i read that, i about crapped myself, i knew things are happening and they dont want an uprising of an armed populace,

but to say it like that really scares me ALOT,

and in other words they KNOW they are screwing up the country and economy and they dont want any resistance when it happens,


why would they PURPOSELY ruin the economy and country?

why do they want to enslave us? what benefit would that give them to be in complete power? obama is already the most POWERFUL man in the free world, there isnt much more he could obtain, so again, having said that, why does he want total control? what else could he gain?
Destruction of middle class, old people, infirm people, anyone who can't work. I think the plan looks a lot like Cecil Rhodes in " Rhodesia "

Going for a ruling class and the serfs. No more pesky " voters "

Of course this is only my opinion.

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and in other words they KNOW they are screwing up the country and economy and they dont want any resistance when it happens,


why would they PURPOSELY ruin the economy and country?
Some, in particular some of the communists Obama has associated with, and maybe him, actually want to ruin the economy to bring down our semi-capitalist system.

However, most just want to be important people in charge of the government. As in the quote in another post:
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You are seeing the result of politicians learning that they can keep their important, high paying government jobs and the power and fame that goes with them, by bribing the people with their own money (or bribing the have-nots with the money created by the haves). They don't care about the end result and they mostly recognize that the country will be destroyed, but they are going to get theirs and hope it kasts until they die.

Keep in mind, the US senate has a median age of about 62 years and the oldest, that POS trash Lautenberg, is almost 89. Of 100 senators, about 59 would have already passed mandatory retirement if they were miltary or federal law enforcement. The house also has an average age near 60. They are just trying to keep the gravy trainin rolling for another few years, until they can retire and get off, or die, and then it's somebody else's problem.
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why would they PURPOSELY ruin the economy and country?

why do they want to enslave us? what benefit would that give them to be in complete power? obama is already the most POWERFUL man in the free world, there isnt much more he could obtain, so again, having said that, why does he want total control? what else could he gain?
There is no political purpose to save a currency if you gained your power promising everybody free stuff.

When the currency collapses, the majority Party will have the ability to exert "emergency powers" and seize control under the mantle of crisis. You should notice existing patterns there from the Party that stated "no crisis should go to waste".

"You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. And what I mean by that is an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before." - Rahm Emanuel, then White House chief of staff.

Your posts indicate to me that you don't understand the human psyche of absolute power, or the corruptibility of power absolute.
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Uh, I believe it did crash just over four years ago (2nd worst in US history) and the country turned left.
Yeah...and how's that working out?

I think there's a differnce between the crash that we forsee and the downturn of four years ago. That's called recession/depression and happens and is recovered from with sane fiscal policy. Far from the economic collapse that we are headed for now that is being caused by the always failing progressive policies that have been put on steriods under this left turn you speak of.
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