BREAKING: Biden Suggests Executive Order

LockHavenYellow · 01-09-2013, 12:15

Fox News: "BREAKING NEWS: Vice President Joe Biden says President Obama could use executive action -- and bypass Congress -- to toughen gun control laws."

Welp, it's over.

Tyranny.

fnfalman · 01-09-2013, 12:17

Jambog!!!

fgutie35 · 01-09-2013, 12:25

It sounds like he got schooled by the NRA and now he is going back crying to his older brother stick up for him.

**Eric** · 01-09-2013, 12:46

Good grief. If I hear one person say 'Well, it is over', before it has even properly begun, I am going to kick someone's cat. Nothing has been decided. Hell, nothing has really even been proposed yet. Perhaps we can wait to yelp and gnash our teeth until something of substance has actually happened.

We are NOT simply a bunch of children waiting for daddy to punish us for some transgression. Aside from the fact that we have done nothing wrong, we are adult Americans with rights and with a considerable amount of political juice on our side. We also, every one of us, have some muscle of our own to flex. Write letters. Let your political officials know how one of their voters feel and DON'T do it with a form letter. If you were in their place, would you bother to read a form letter? Tell them how you feel, in your own words.

Let's not abandon the ship just yet.

nmk · 01-09-2013, 12:48

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Originally Posted by Eric

Good grief. If I hear one person say 'Well, it is over', before it has even properly begun, I am going to kick someone's cat.

People are looking at me...

LockHavenYellow · 01-09-2013, 12:49

Kick all the cats you want; I hate cats.

If you don't think that this government is hellbent on sealing this forever, I'd love to have a pint - or a truckload - of whatever you're having.

Further, to think that politicians give a red cent about what we citizens want is nothing short of naive.

But kudos on being an optimist.

**Eric** · 01-09-2013, 12:52

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Originally Posted by LockHavenYellow

Kick all the cats you want; I hate cats.

If you don't think that this government is hellbent on sealing this forever, I'd love to have a pint - or a truckload - of whatever you're having.

Further, to think that politicians give a red cent about what we citizens want is nothing short of naive.

But kudos on being an optimist.

If you want to roll over and show your belly, more power to you. We are not powerless. If we were, we would be, I don't know, French. We are Americans and we have rights. Exercise those rights or lose them. Eric

LockHavenYellow · 01-09-2013, 12:54

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Originally Posted by Eric

If you want to roll over and show your belly, more power to you. We are not powerless. If we were, we would be, I don't know, French. We are Americans and we have rights. Exercise those rights or lose them. Eric

My comments have been misunderstood - I'm not admitting defeat. I'm pointing out the fact that the government has jumped the shark and they've clearly decided to tyrannically overstep their power and force us into a whole new realm of fighting for our freedoms.

**Eric** · 01-09-2013, 13:02

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Originally Posted by LockHavenYellow

My comments have been misunderstood - I'm not admitting defeat. I'm pointing out the fact that the government has jumped the shark and they've clearly decided to tyrannically overstep their power and force us into a whole new realm of fighting for our freedoms.

Everything they do has to stand up to scrutiny. To judicial review. The checks and balances built into our constitution work. Obama can't simply pull a rabbit out of his hat and shove it up our collective ass. This nation doesn't work that way.

Keep in mind too that while Obama may not have to worry too much about losing political capital now, but all those other democrats surrounding him would probably like to avoid losing their seat at the pork barrel. Most of those career pols are not going to commit career hari-kari for the Big O. The flip-side of this being Obama's last term means that he will have nothing to offer those career pols(Including political protection), come the next election. They will be on their own. Eric

JimIsland · 01-09-2013, 13:50

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Originally Posted by LockHavenYellow

My comments have been misunderstood - I'm not admitting defeat. I'm pointing out the fact that the government has jumped the shark and they've clearly decided to tyrannically overstep their power and force us into a whole new realm of fighting for our freedoms.

Well you make comments like "It's over"...whatcha expect

***okie*** · 01-10-2013, 08:29

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Originally Posted by LockHavenYellow

Kick all the cats you want; I hate cats.

coastal4974 · 01-10-2013, 08:42

They are sending out all these drastic signals to get us to think the worst is about to happen.

Then when they come out with much less we are all supposed to be relieved that they are only making us register or eliminate private transactions or what ever it is they have planned.

It won't be as much as you think but will be more of our 2a right taken away. That tactic has worked very well for the left over the years, something the right will never understand.

So don't forget to be happy when they only infringe our rights a little bit.

**RussP** · 01-10-2013, 08:44

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Originally Posted by coastal4974

They are sending out all these drastic signals to get us to think the worst is about to happen.

Then when they come out with much less we are all supposed to be relieved that they are only making us register or eliminate private transactions or what ever it is they have planned.

It won't be as much as you think but will be more of our 2a right taken away. That tactic has worked very well for the left over the years, something the right will never understand.

So don't forget to be happy when they only infringe our rights a little bit.

I believe some call it a welcome compromise.

Problem with that is only one side gives up something.

abcstevemfj · 01-13-2013, 19:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by LockHavenYellow

Kick all the cats you want; I hate cats.

If you don't think that this government is hellbent on sealing this forever, I'd love to have a pint - or a truckload - of whatever you're having.

Further, to think that politicians give a red cent about what we citizens want is nothing short of naive.

But kudos on being an optimist.

AHH, don't
Kick my cat, please

IndyGunFreak · 01-09-2013, 12:58

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Originally Posted by Eric

Good grief. If I hear one person say 'Well, it is over', before it has even properly begun, I am going to kick someone's cat. Nothing has been decided. Hell, nothing has really even been proposed yet. Perhaps we can wait to yelp and gnash our teeth until something of substance has actually happened.

We are NOT simply a bunch of children waiting for daddy to punish us for some transgression. Aside from the fact that we have done nothing wrong, we are adult Americans with rights and with a considerable amount of political juice on our side. We also, every one of us, have some muscle of our own to flex. Write letters. Let your political officials know how one of their voters feel and DON'T do it with a form letter. If you were in their place, would you bother to read a form letter? Tell them how you feel, in your own words.

Let's not abandon the ship just yet.

Finally, some sense in this argument.

Our saving grace, might be the nations fiscal crisis. They're going to have their hands full with that one, and I'm not sure they can fit gun control (which will no doubt be very contentious debate) into the session.

IGF

LockHavenYellow · 01-09-2013, 13:00

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Originally Posted by IndyGunFreak

Finally, some sense in this argument.

Our saving grace, might be the nations fiscal crisis. They're going to have their hands full with that one, and I'm not sure they can fit gun control (which will no doubt be very contentious debate) into the session.

IGF

You understand that an executive order bypasses congress, correct?

.45Super-Man · 01-09-2013, 13:08

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Originally Posted by IndyGunFreak

Finally, some sense in this argument.

Our saving grace, might be the nations fiscal crisis. They're going to have their hands full with that one, and I'm not sure they can fit gun control (which will no doubt be very contentious debate) into the session.

IGF

The 'fiscal crisis' has been engineered and will become the 'national crisis' necessary to push marshall law through. Marshall law is the shortest, quickest way to confiscation for them. There must be a 'national crisis' to suspend 'posse comitatus', first.

**Eric** · 01-09-2013, 13:14

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Originally Posted by .45Super-Man

The 'fiscal crisis' has been engineered and will become the 'national crisis' necessary to push marshall law through. Marshall law is the shortest, quickest way to confiscation for them.

This is twice in one thread, but good grief. Some of you guys should write political thrillers, or take Lithium, or both. Eric

BTW, it is Martial Law.

Joshhtn · 01-09-2013, 13:27

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Originally Posted by Eric

This is twice in one thread, but good grief. Some of you guys should write political thrillers, or take Lithium, or both. Eric

BTW, it is Martial Law.

I couldn't agree more.

humanguerrilla · 01-09-2013, 13:23

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Originally Posted by .45Super-Man

The 'fiscal crisis' has been engineered and will become the 'national crisis' necessary to push marshall law through. Marshall law is the shortest, quickest way to confiscation for them.

Who is he/she? I too believe short, quick people shouldn't be underestimated but I don't think they could take our guns.

Climb14er · 01-09-2013, 13:29

The narcissistic KING has spoken!

noway · 01-10-2013, 03:23

i like how the gun owners themselves are making this bigger than what it is , and running around like jack rabbits claiming the end of days. Just comical

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Originally Posted by .45Super-Man

The 'fiscal crisis' has been engineered and will become the 'national crisis' necessary to push marshall law through. Marshall law is the shortest, quickest way to confiscation for them. There must be a 'national crisis' to suspend 'posse comitatus', first.

Yo do know the federal gov has not lin acted martial law, in like what over 50+ year ago or if iirc, since Pearl Harbor. A shooting in Sandy Hook of 20 kids 6 adults 9 as sad as that could be ) or fiscal crisis , is not cause for martial or marshall law.

We all need to stop feeding towards the panic and fears harboring that we are doing to our own selves.