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Old 12-27-2012, 17:48   #1
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James Yeager is a smart guy

James Yeager is a smart guy. Yes, I said it, and it's true. Do you allow yourself to get hacked off at stuff he says that you disagree with? If yes, James Yeager loves you. He's running a business, and he has stuff to sell. By being controversial, he gets his name out there, keeps it out there, and keeps interest in his products high.

Do 1911's really suck? Of course they don't, and James Yeager doesn't really believe that. But how many people do you think come and spend a pile money to bring their 1911's to his classes to try to prove him wrong? Probably more than you might think.

Should all guns really be Glock 19's? No, and James Yeager knows that. But by recommending the Glock 19, he is helping his classes to be successful. Glock 19's are ubiquitous. So are holsters, magazines, parts, just about anything you might need for a Glock 19 is probably available almost anywhere that guns are sold.

This means he won't lose customers at the gun store. If he recommended something else. Oh, say a Walther PPQ or a Sig 226, they may or may not have it. The customer goes in and asks for it, and the salesman says sorry, we don't have it. How about this M&P instead? No, says the customer, I HAVE to have the xxxx for this class I'm going to.

Why are you wasting so much money on that class, says the salesman? James Yeager is an idiot. We have a class right here that will teach you the same stuff for $100. In fact, one is meeting this Saturday morning....

If they go in and ask for a G19... that will almost never happen. "Well, sir, I don't have one today, but I can get you one from our other store."

When the customer gets to the class with his G19, he will have the same gun as a whole bunch of his classmates, and that will make him feel secure.

Chances are, his new G19 will run just fine and take him through the entire course with no problems. On the off chance that something does go wrong- maybe he forgot to bring his extra magazines, or something- it's likely that ether other classmates, or even Yeager's company, will have spares. If his gun breaks, spare parts will be readily available.

The customer will have a good experience and will come back again, and may even recommend it to his friends.

Meanwhile, some other guy who spends twice as much money on a new 1911 and .45 ACP ammo, but doesn't take the time to break it in, may find that his gun won't work right. He will be ridiculed by his Glock fan classmates, and be forced to finish the course with a borrowed G19. He not only will not come back, but will tell his friends to stay away.

Oh, and what about 1911 guy who wants to show Yeager up? Well, since his gun is probably well broken in, and he's fired it so much it's like an extension of his hand, his gun probably will run through the class with flying colors. He will have a great experience there and will go home and brag about it. Score another one for Yeager.

Personally? I think Yeager is pretty entertaining, and I respect his ability to sell his company. But I'd rather put my time and energy to much better use- like debating about 9mm vs. 45, or AR vs. Ak.

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Old 12-27-2012, 18:23   #2
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For some reason, that guy looks like he has BO. Never met him, he just looks stinky.
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Old 12-27-2012, 18:29   #3
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For some reason, that guy looks like he has BO. Never met him, he just looks stinky.


I agree with the OP, without the stupid comments he makes I certainly would not know his name.
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Old 12-27-2012, 18:34   #4
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I don't hate him,but how is he anymore qualified to give advice on self defense more than anyone else with a similar background?

He's been a LEO in a small Tennessee town,instructor and contractor.There's a cop in my town that worked as a contractor in Iraq,but he's by no means a gun guy.

Why should I take advice from James Yeagar?
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Old 12-27-2012, 18:39   #5
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Why should I take advice from James Yeagar?
Isn't he the guy who ran away and his clients got murdered as a result? HH
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Old 12-27-2012, 18:41   #6
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Isn't he the guy who ran away and his clients got murdered as a result? HH
Yes,it was his brothers in arms that he got killed I believe.
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Old 12-27-2012, 18:34   #7
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"Runaway Yeager" is da man
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Old 12-31-2012, 01:23   #8
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"Runaway Yeager" is da man
Ahhhh another who thinks sitting in a bullet magnet is an act of heroism
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Old 12-31-2012, 07:47   #9
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Ahhhh another who thinks sitting in a bullet magnet is an act of heroism
No, but helping the fallen rather than laying in a ditch taking a nap is.
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Old 12-31-2012, 11:52   #10
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No, but helping the fallen rather than laying in a ditch taking a nap is.
So when you are under fire, and one of your team is has been hit, you think the priority is to render aid, while still taking fire? You are not concerned with the guys sending bullets your way?

If you read the AAR, one of the fallen told another who was trying to help, that he was shot in the leg, as he said it, more rounds hit him in the neck and head, killing him.

It might be another perspective, differing from your own, that the highest priority is to stop the source of the gun fire. From your perspective, he should have ignored the gun fire that was penetrating the car and doing damage, so he could stop the bleeding. How does all of them being killed make the situation better?

What if the guy giving aid had actually returned fire instead of triage? Would that have kept the shooter from sending the rounds that ended up killing? Would the shooters have given up and left sooner?

There are any number of ways to slice this incident, while sitting comfortably at our computers. That's why I say that my issues with Yeager are many, but I won't cheap shot him over Iraq. I wasn't there.

Clint Smith likes to say that incoming rounds have the right of way. If incoming rounds have priority, then the person sending those rounds also has priority.
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Old 12-31-2012, 12:18   #11
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It might be another perspective, differing from your own, that the highest priority is to stop the source of the gun fire. From your perspective, he should have ignored the gun fire that was penetrating the car and doing damage, so he could stop the bleeding. How does all of them being killed make the situation better?
He did ignore the gunfire. He couldn't even tell where it was coming from based on the AAR.
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So when you are under fire, and one of your team is has been hit, you think the priority is to render aid, while still taking fire? You are not concerned with the guys sending bullets your way?

If you read the AAR, one of the fallen told another who was trying to help, that he was shot in the leg, as he said it, more rounds hit him in the neck and head, killing him.

It might be another perspective, differing from your own, that the highest priority is to stop the source of the gun fire. From your perspective, he should have ignored the gun fire that was penetrating the car and doing damage, so he could stop the bleeding. How does all of them being killed make the situation better?

What if the guy giving aid had actually returned fire instead of triage? Would that have kept the shooter from sending the rounds that ended up killing? Would the shooters have given up and left sooner?

There are any number of ways to slice this incident, while sitting comfortably at our computers. That's why I say that my issues with Yeager are many, but I won't cheap shot him over Iraq. I wasn't there.

Clint Smith likes to say that incoming rounds have the right of way. If incoming rounds have priority, then the person sending those rounds also has priority.
Spoken like a true survivor. Well put.
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Old 12-27-2012, 18:37   #13
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Ditto,

Who are you, and why do we need a thread on this dude?
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Old 12-27-2012, 18:43   #14
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Ditto,

Who are you, and why do we need a thread on this dude?
Maybe it's his brother.
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Old 12-27-2012, 18:47   #15
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Ditto,

Who are you, and why do we need a thread on this dude?
Looks like Yeagers press agent.

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Is this a sales pitch or something?
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Looks like Yeagers press agent.


Seriously, I wasn't being facetious. I know this is GNG and all but even for GNG the bottom of the barrel got scraped.
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Maybe he'll show up here. The thread over on GT's "Tactics & Training" section where he showed up and threatened everyone laughing at him was absolutely epic! HH
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Maybe he'll show up here. The thread over on GT's "Tactics & Training" section where he showed up and threatened everyone laughing at him was absolutely epic! HH
Gonna need a link, please
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Maybe he'll show up here. The thread over on GT's "Tactics & Training" section where he showed up and threatened everyone laughing at him was absolutely epic! HH
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Maybe he'll show up here. The thread over on GT's "Tactics & Training" section where he showed up and threatened everyone laughing at him was absolutely epic! HH
link? need a good laugh tonight
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please link, the guy is an epic *********.

I daresay I would tell him that to his face, despite the possibility that my back gets broken........
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Seriously, I wasn't being facetious. I know this is GNG and all but even for GNG the bottom of the barrel got scraped.
me neither .. barrel did not get scraped it got blown up 10mm style /
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Who are you, and why do we need a thread on this dude?
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Would sooner take driving lessons from Yeager than ones about firearms.

*edit* Maj: love the sig line!
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Would sooner take driving lessons from Yeager than ones about firearms.

*edit* Maj: love the sig line!
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