[RWBlue]

I would like an opinion from the police officers here in GT.

What are your thoughts about putting cops in schools?

I am trying to think of a reason why there can't be some room at the school for the police to do paperwork if nothing else so there is an armed presence even though I wouldn't expect there would be much to do MOST of the time.

[blueiron]

The Education mafia is overwhelming hard left. They do not care for the police or what the police represent. Firearms are not welcome, no matter who wields them.

There are other threads about the problems encountered when reality attempts to enter the 'ivory towers' of education.

In over 20 years of street policing, I only encountered two reality based educators - one was the director of a charter school and the other was a retired USAF Chief Master Sergeant who got his PhD and was the principal of an elementary school. Both of their schools were run well. The others were constant centers of wasted efforts.

[trdvet]

Originally Posted by blueiron

The Education mafia is overwhelming hard left. They do not care for the police or what the police represent. Firearms are not welcome, no matter who wields them.

This. They don't want scary guns on campus and be thought of as a problem school.

[dwhite53]

Originally Posted by trdvet

This. They don't want scary guns on campus.

This exactly.

They've spent 20 - 30 years doing as Eric Holder said, "brainwashing our kids to think different about guns".

Now, having armed patrol officers in schools shows that guns have a place in society. They are useful and can save lives. Completely antithetical to our indoctrinators, oops, I mean EDUCATORS desired ends.

All the Best,
D. White

[Kingarthurhk]

Originally Posted by blueiron

The Education mafia is overwhelming hard left. They do not care for the police or what the police represent. Firearms are not welcome, no matter who wields them.

Neither does the hard right, we get it comming and going.

There are other threads about the problems encountered when reality attempts to enter the 'ivory towers' of education.

Reality regularly enters there, especially in High Schools.

In over 20 years of street policing, I only encountered two reality based educators - one was the director of a charter school and the other was a retired USAF Chief Master Sergeant who got his PhD and was the principal of an elementary school. Both of their schools were run well. The others were constant centers of wasted efforts.

Police in schools are a reality in major cities. I don't see why having a local police presence was an issue. We had an old police officer who would regulate traffic and make it safe to go across cross walks when I was a nematoad in Florida. We all liked that old guy. But, I guess, that was when values existed like respecting authority and elders.

I remember having conversations with him, he was always happy and loved kids.

Now, when we moved around to some larger cities and as the grade got higher there was a group that was more surly and younger. But, then again, they had to deal with a lot more crap.

[TK-421]

Originally Posted by RWBlue

I would like an opinion from the police officers here in GT.

What are your thoughts about putting cops in schools?

I am trying to think of a reason why there can't be some room at the school for the police to do paperwork if nothing else so there is an armed presence even though I wouldn't expect there would be much to do MOST of the time.

There are a lot of schools where there are already police. My high school had an officer that actually worked inside the school. That was her patrol area, the whole high school. Granted, I'd like to see at least two officers there, and I don't remember if the one officer was armed or not. But you'd occasionally see her wandering the halls, and she was very friendly and welcoming.

[Dragoon44]

Originally Posted by RWBlue

I would like an opinion from the police officers here in GT.

What are your thoughts about putting cops in schools?

I am trying to think of a reason why there can't be some room at the school for the police to do paperwork if nothing else so there is an armed presence even though I wouldn't expect there would be much to do MOST of the time.

Where I live every school has had at least one (Some two) SRO's for the last twenty years.

That includes the patrol car left in front of the entrance. No one has ever tried to shoot up one of our schools.

We DID have a mass shooting at a local plant though.

[SPIN2010]

Originally Posted by Dragoon44

Where I live every school has had at least one (Some two) SRO's for the last twenty years.

That includes the patrol car left in front of the entrance. No one has ever tried to shoot up one of our schools.

We DID have a mass shooting at a local plant though.

Same here ... my kids school has always had them.

[Panzergrenadier1979]

We had an SRO until this summer when the officer retired. Now the SRO position is in financial limbo and we are currently operating without one. Daylight shifts have to do foot patrols through the high school to keep up a presence and our work load has increased since we now have to respond to every hiccup that occurs there.

We also provide officers for security during football/basketball games.

For the folks in GNG...... Having an officer on campus was not viewed as any sort of decline into a "police state", in fact, the school came to lean heavily on our SRO to assist with problem students; the school principles would even call her on her cell phone on her days off before they could call 911.

Our SRO typically dealt with student fights, threats, tobacco use, minor drug/alcohol use, theft, harassment by text/email/facebook etc, and truancy. Real Gestapo stuff.

[Spiffums]

Originally Posted by Panzergrenadier1979

We had an SRO until this summer when the officer retired. Now the SRO position is in financial limbo and we are currently operating without one. Daylight shifts have to do foot patrols through the high school to keep up a presence and our work load has increased since we now have to respond to every hiccup that occurs there.

We also provide officers for security during football/basketball games.

For the folks in GNG...... Having an officer on campus was not viewed as any sort of decline into a "police state", in fact, the school came to lean heavily on our SRO to assist with problem students; the school principles would even call her on her cell phone on her days off before they could call 911.

Our SRO typically dealt with student fights, threats, tobacco use, minor drug/alcohol use, theft, harassment by text/email/facebook etc, and truancy. Real Gestapo stuff.

Smoking / Chewing police!

[oldman11]

Texas isn't wasting time with "Gun free zones".

http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2012...-january.html/

That's how you protect children, not with your commie leaning ideas of banning guns.

[mj9mm]

the highschools and some middleschools have had a police presence for a few years. we would just need to spread it to the elementary schools, not a small feat with tight budgets, though

[jpa]

Originally Posted by mj9mm

the highschools and some middleschools have had a police presence for a few years. we would just need to spread it to the elementary schools, not a small feat with tight budgets, though

Ditto here. The big problem is that CCSD has 327 schools. The CCSD police department has a little over 200 officers. When Las Vegas was building like mad, instead of adding capacity to existing schools, they went gangbusters and built a crap ton of new schools. Can't give do-nothing admin jobs to your friends and family if there aren't enough schools to go around. Now half those schools are underutilized (read: half-vacant) and the other half is decrepit and in disrepair. Instead of closing campuses and consolidating, they tried to pass a ballot question to raise property taxes to pay for maintenance on the broke-down schools. That failed miserably.

[GRIMLET]

Our county gets a grant for SRO.
The high school and middle school have assigned officers on site. The elementary schools, four of them, get a floating SRO to share.

I think the SRO program is great.

[DonGlock26]

Originally Posted by RWBlue

I would like an opinion from the police officers here in GT.

What are your thoughts about putting cops in schools?

I am trying to think of a reason why there can't be some room at the school for the police to do paperwork if nothing else so there is an armed presence even though I wouldn't expect there would be much to do MOST of the time.

We had them in the ghetto where I worked and they were kept pretty busy- dope, guns, knives, fights, gang fights, parents and relatives coming to the school to battle other families, sporting event violence. Just normal American high school stuff in Blue America.

[Steve in PA]

Last year a local school district had to close two elementary schools in neighboring towns (too old, too small, too many issues to remodel, etc) and they remodeled the one in our town.

Beginning in Sept of this year, in cooperation without our town, the school and town agreed to hire a full-time officer for the school. The school and town split the officers salary.

The officer has said that he has been receiving nothing but praise and positive comments from teachers, parents and students.

[Kahr_Glockman]

I am a school cop and have been very busy. I have one of the better schools in town and still manage to stay busy.

My campus is very supportive and knows what I am there for and doesn't bother me with the petty stuff. I am enjoying it and have really liked off the streets.

It is still policing just a different kind of policing.

[SCSU74]

We have officers in all middle schools and high schools. I think it would make more sense to create an ISD police and have them in all schools including ekementary

[txleapd]

The school district here has their own police force. We work with them on a regular basis. Especially their gang detectives.

[CJStudent]

Jefferson County Public Schools has sworn officers that patrol the schools after hours, but are not allowed to carry weapons per school board policy. This is in addition to the (relatively new; 10 years or so) SROs; I don't think every school even at the middle and high school level have SROs, though.

They go through the full regular police academy like any other LEO in the state, including using weapons in the academy, but don't have them when they start working. Makes a lot of sense, I know.

My idea for here, at least, would be to arm those folks that patrol, and have armed school "special police", basically security officers sworn as "Special Law Enforcement Officers" under state law, to be in the schools, at least one for EVERY school, during the hours they're occupied.

[Dragoon44]

I have to admit that often times these days I see the latest crop of officers and wonder why they aren't still in school.

[DoogieHowser]

Originally Posted by CJStudent

Jefferson County Public Schools has sworn officers that patrol the schools after hours, but are not allowed to carry weapons per school board policy. This is in addition to the (relatively new; 10 years or so) SROs; I don't think every school even at the middle and high school level have SROs, though.

They go through the full regular police academy like any other LEO in the state, including using weapons in the academy, but don't have them when they start working. Makes a lot of sense, I know.

My idea for here, at least, would be to arm those folks that patrol, and have armed school "special police", basically security officers sworn as "Special Law Enforcement Officers" under state law, to be in the schools, at least one for EVERY school, during the hours they're occupied.

How can a board dictate policy to a a sworn police officer? They are exempt from that nonsense. We have the SCoP program here in VA Special Conservators of the Peace, we also have a new one they are rolling out specifically for Campus Cops.

[trdvet]

Originally Posted by DoogieHowser

How can a board dictate policy to a a sworn police officer?

Probably because they work for the school board. We have school police here and they have all sorts of silly policies. The Chief answers to the superintendent and the officers answer to the principals and the chief.

[CJStudent]

Originally Posted by DoogieHowser

How can a board dictate policy to a a sworn police officer? They are exempt from that nonsense. We have the SCoP program here in VA Special Conservators of the Peace, we also have a new one they are rolling out specifically for Campus Cops.

Originally Posted by trdvet

Probably because they work for the school board. We have school police here and they have all sorts of silly policies. The Chief answers to the superintendent and the officers answer to the principals and the chief.

Exactly; they are employed by the school board, so the school board sets their policies.

[RWBlue]

Originally Posted by CJStudent

Exactly; they are employed by the school board, so the school board sets their policies.

Very bad idea forming a police department under educators. It would be like forming a police department under a bunch of scientists. It is not that they are not knowledgeable, but they don't think the correct way to run a police department.