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Old 12-20-2012, 18:20   #1
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Brazilian made, not just Taurus

Just realized that my SA loaded, that I had to send back for service was 'made in Brazil -Imbel".

My Taurus PT1911 is also made in Brazil, has more standard features and did not need factory trigger service, and cost $300 less. Hmmm...
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Old 12-20-2012, 19:03   #2
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Old 12-20-2012, 19:06   #3
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they are both good 1911s


.....unless you are a 1911-snob
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Old 12-20-2012, 19:34   #4
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You just now realized it was made in Brazil?
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Old 12-20-2012, 19:36   #5
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My Taurus PT1911 is also made in Brazil, has more standard features and did not need factory trigger service, and cost $300 less. Hmmm...
Yeah, that one is a great value. Why pay $2500 for a Wilson when you can get a Taurus for a fifth of the price with the same features?
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Yeah, that one is a great value. Why pay $2500 for a Wilson when you can get a Taurus for a fifth of the price with the same features?
Wilson doesn't come with bling bling gold controls!
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Yeah, that one is a great value. Why pay $2500 for a Wilson when you can get a Taurus for a fifth of the price with the same features?
Then again, needing some other guy to build and improve your 1911 is like having a custom hot rod or chopper that some other guy built and not knowing how to fix it. Traditionally, the pride is in making it, not just owning it.

I'd take more pride in a Taurus that I turned into a great gun than in a Wilson I took out of a box.
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Old 12-25-2012, 13:20   #8
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Then again, needing some other guy to build and improve your 1911 is like having a custom hot rod or chopper that some other guy built and not knowing how to fix it. Traditionally, the pride is in making it, not just owning it.

I'd take more pride in a Taurus that I turned into a great gun than in a Wilson I took out of a box.


I wouldn't spend a dime trying to turn a Taurus into a great gun, but to each their own.

Sorry, but I'd take more pride in the Wilson. If you want a base gun to customize, you start with a Colt, not a Taurus. You don't sink money into a Taurus.
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Old 12-25-2012, 14:18   #9
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Can the snobbery not end? How much of this is handed down perception vs. true 1st hand experience-- lotsa testimonials, but very few reasons. I own both SA and Taurus, as well as a Colt, Kimber, Sig. To tell you the truth, looking beyond the brand stamped on the frame, the "quality" "fit/finish" of the "Brand" is not worth the >50% price markup over the Taurus, to me, since they function the same. That's just me.

That is the whole point of this-- you can get both a winner or loser with a 1911 no matter what "The Brand"... The $$Brand$$ can have it losers too, as well as the inexpensive brand-- so you have holding in your hand an expensive loser or a cheap loser.

I think this is where many people throw up their hands, go for a $500 polymer gun.
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Then again, needing some other guy to build and improve your 1911 is like having a custom hot rod or chopper that some other guy built and not knowing how to fix it. Traditionally, the pride is in making it, not just owning it.

I'd take more pride in a Taurus that I turned into a great gun than in a Wilson I took out of a box.
Yeah, I'll take owning a Ferrari over a hopped up Kia any day of the week. Don't care who built either.
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Yeah, I'll take owning a Ferrari over a hopped up Kia any day of the week. Don't care who built either.
Yeah, exactly.

That post was ridiculous. I'm glad people have good working Taurus 1911s. Mine has never had a firing malfunction either. However, to sink money into one just seems silly.

I'd take more pride in owning a stock Ferrari than I would a hopped up Hyundai, whether I did the work myself or not.

...and, by the way, I drive a Hyundai every day. Good cars, but certainly not something you sink money into to customize.
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Yeah, I'll take owning a Ferrari over a hopped up Kia any day of the week. Don't care who built either.
Unless that hopped up Kia whoops your ass on a race course. Then it'd be awkward...
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Unless that hopped up Kia whoops your ass on a race course. Then it'd be awkward...
True, there are exceptions but I'll play the odds.
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Then again, needing some other guy to build and improve your 1911 is like having a custom hot rod or chopper that some other guy built and not knowing how to fix it. Traditionally, the pride is in making it, not just owning it.

I'd take more pride in a Taurus that I turned into a great gun than in a Wilson I took out of a box.
So you ride a bling-bling Honda & not a Harley?

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.....unless you are a 1911-snob
In case anyone was wondering, I'll remove all doubt. My good buddy Flip is referring to me.

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In case anyone was wondering, I'll remove all doubt. My good buddy Flip is referring to me.

You get to be a 1911 snob.
I think most would agree with that.
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In case anyone was wondering, I'll remove all doubt. My good buddy Flip is referring to me.

No, not at all. A lot of folk bash the PT-1911 but for a sub $400 1911 it will function fine with a forged frame & slide and not let you down.
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No, not at all. A lot of folk bash the PT-1911 but for a sub $400 1911 it will function fine with a forged frame & slide and not let you down.
And with the gold bling version serve well in the "who you eye balling ho, where my damn money?" role for any self respecting pimp!
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No, not at all. A lot of folk bash the PT-1911 but for a sub $400 1911 it will function fine with a forged frame & slide and not let you down.
Sub $400?

If they were that cheap, I wouldn't bash them. The problem is the Filipino 1911s are around $400 and are nicer guns, in my opinion.
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Sub $400?

If they were that cheap, I wouldn't bash them.

I got mine when they first came out for $369. How much did yours cost??
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No, not at all. A lot of folk bash the PT-1911 but for a sub $400 1911 it will function fine with a forged frame & slide and not let you down.
I'll give you the forged frame and slide but it's well known that, these guns aren't $399 or below NOW..... not even close.....and the rest of the small parts are junk. Including a hammer safety that's been known to turn them into a single shot.
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No, not at all. A lot of folk bash the PT-1911 but for a sub $400 1911 it will function fine with a forged frame & slide and not let you down.
Unless you shear the lugs off teh barrel or other malady due to a poorly fitted barrel , then send it back and have a go around for 6 months with custimer service on using "hot loads"..
This happened to one of our officers.. I would say no ..to a taurii...
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Unless you shear the lugs off teh barrel or other malady due to a poorly fitted barrel , then send it back and have a go around for 6 months with custimer service on using "hot loads"..
This happened to one of our officers.. I would say no ..to a taurii...
Inconsistency has always been Taurus' biggest issue.
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Unless you shear the lugs off teh barrel or other malady due to a poorly fitted barrel , then send it back and have a go around for 6 months with customer service on using "hot loads"..
This happened to one of our officers..


I would avoid 'hot loads' in the first place and if need be fit a new barrel. I don't need any warranty service for any of my 1911s
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I would avoid 'hot loads' in the first place and if need be fit a new barrel. I don't need any warranty service for any of my 1911s

I interpreted the quotes around "hot loads" as in Taurus accused him of using hot loads, even though he hadn't, as an excuse to try and not cover the repair under warranty.

I could be way off the mark, however.
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