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12-19-2012, 14:39
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9mm guys, will you switch in a post-ban era?
So, a majority of the debate in 9mm vs 45acp comes to capacity vs power. I know there are other arguments, but that's what I hear the most. So my question is, if a 10 round magazine limit is instated, will you switch to 40sw or 45acp or stay with 9mm in handguns that can hold 10 in either caliber?
I am kind of leaning that, if I can only have 10, I might as well have the biggest 10 I can.
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12-19-2012, 14:45
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I would go with .357 sig... If im limited to only 10 rds
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12-19-2012, 17:10
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I would go with .357 sig... If im limited to only 10 rds
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I've been thinking about this the last couple of days and came up with this answer as well.
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12-19-2012, 14:55
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You make a good question to ponder. I dont think many would change over but some would consider/look at it. Plus are they gonna ban new sales or completely restrict 10+ mags. Heck some companies dont even make 10 rounders but may have to soon. Everyone is anxious about this possible AWB.
In the last ban people were able to keep their "hi-caps" if they were bought before the ban.
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12-19-2012, 16:45
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Originally Posted by TSA
You make a good question to ponder. I dont think many would change over but some would consider/look at it. Plus are they gonna ban new sales or completely restrict 10+ mags. Heck some companies dont even make 10 rounders but may have to soon. Everyone is anxious about this possible AWB.
In the last ban people were able to keep their "hi-caps" if they were bought before the ban.

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Probably grandfather in stuff, but with a no-sale and no-will clause. And if you shoot em, mags wear out, break, start to malfunction. I am sure repair parts will be illegal as well.
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12-19-2012, 14:55
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I will have plenty of hi-cap mags so it's really not going to be a factor. Now if I were just starting out and was limited to 10 I would probably go with .45 in a full size gun, but the other calibers would still have a place in subcompacts.
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01-08-2013, 18:19
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Originally Posted by cowboy1964
I will have plenty of hi-cap mags so it's really not going to be a factor. Now if I were just starting out and was limited to 10 I would probably go with .45 in a full size gun, but the other calibers would still have a place in subcompacts.
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Are you assuming that they wont ban possession of hi caps?
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01-09-2013, 12:34
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Originally Posted by writwing
Are you assuming that they wont ban possession of hi caps?
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They'll try, But I am wondering if a GOP-controlled HR will pass it?
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01-10-2013, 18:19
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Are you assuming that they wont ban possession of hi caps?
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Well, yes. Even Feinstein's wet dream isn't outright banning them entirely, just the transfer of them.
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01-10-2013, 18:27
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Well, yes. Even Feinstein's wet dream isn't outright banning them entirely, just the transfer of them.
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Yes, IT IS
An outright ban, mr and mrs American, turn them all in
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12-19-2012, 16:06
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Would I switch? No.
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12-19-2012, 16:10
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No.
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12-19-2012, 16:50
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Already have before this BS even started, 40 and 45 here.
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12-19-2012, 16:52
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No. I like 9mm.
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12-19-2012, 17:01
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NO ....
9mm is Good for many
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12-19-2012, 17:29
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No as my carry gun is a g26 as it is.
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12-19-2012, 17:32
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Living in Kommifornia, we have been stuck w/ 10+1 for some time. My XD45c is the same size as a G19, same round count out here. When, not if, we return to the AWB & 10rd mags, you'll see a significant drop in full size guns being sold. It happened last time. That was when the compct boom started. Why carry a G17 w/ 10+1, when you can carry a G26, etc. If you can shoot a larger caliber, round count will no longer be a deciding factor.
IMO, start planning for it, the AWB will be a permanent law next year. I hate to say I told you, but for all those that just had to vote their conscious instead of Romney. PBO was just waiting for something like this to happen so they could capitalize on it & they will. So now we get a more severe gun control & a crappy Euro style economy. Thank a liberal or libertarian for this one.
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12-19-2012, 17:47
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Originally Posted by fredj338
Living in Kommifornia, we have been stuck w/ 10+1 for some time. My XD45c is the same size as a G19, same round count out here. When, not if, we return to the AWB & 10rd mags, you'll see a significant drop in full size guns being sold. It happened last time. That was when the compct boom started. Why carry a G17 w/ 10+1, when you can carry a G26, etc. If you can shoot a larger caliber, round count will no longer be a deciding factor.
IMO, start planning for it, the AWB will be a permanent law next year. I hate to say I told you, but for all those that just had to vote their conscious instead of Romney. PBO was just waiting for something like this to happen so they could capitalize on it & they will. So now we get a more severe gun control & a crappy Euro style economy. Thank a liberal or libertarian for this one. 
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Exactly!!!
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12-25-2012, 05:33
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Originally Posted by fredj338
Living in Kommifornia, we have been stuck w/ 10+1 for some time. My XD45c is the same size as a G19, same round count out here. When, not if, we return to the AWB & 10rd mags, you'll see a significant drop in full size guns being sold. It happened last time. That was when the compct boom started. Why carry a G17 w/ 10+1, when you can carry a G26, etc. If you can shoot a larger caliber, round count will no longer be a deciding factor.
IMO, start planning for it, the AWB will be a permanent law next year. I hate to say I told you, but for all those that just had to vote their conscious instead of Romney. PBO was just waiting for something like this to happen so they could capitalize on it & they will. So now we get a more severe gun control & a crappy Euro style economy. Thank a liberal or libertarian for this one.
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Originally Posted by packinaglock
Exactly!!! 
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Double exactly - the low information voter (aka uninformed) are taking us all down the European sewer. It all starts with the liberals controlling the education of our children and now my grandchildren. It has taken 2 generations to get us here now the question is can the country recover?
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12-25-2012, 15:43
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Originally Posted by fredj338
Living in Kommifornia, we have been stuck w/ 10+1 for some time. My XD45c is the same size as a G19, same round count out here. When, not if, we return to the AWB & 10rd mags, you'll see a significant drop in full size guns being sold. It happened last time. That was when the compct boom started. Why carry a G17 w/ 10+1, when you can carry a G26, etc. If you can shoot a larger caliber, round count will no longer be a deciding factor.
IMO, start planning for it, the AWB will be a permanent law next year. I hate to say I told you, but for all those that just had to vote their conscious instead of Romney. PBO was just waiting for something like this to happen so they could capitalize on it & they will. So now we get a more severe gun control & a crappy Euro style economy. Thank a liberal or libertarian for this one.
Double exactly - the low information voter (aka uninformed) are taking us all down the European sewer. It all starts with the liberals controlling the education of our children and now my grandchildren. It has taken 2 generations to get us here now the question is can the country recover?
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Triple exactly. You are a man of experience being from California.
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12-19-2012, 18:47
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Originally Posted by fredj338
Living in Kommifornia, we have been stuck w/ 10+1 for some time. . 
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Lived there for a long time and still visit often so I still have my 10 rounders. Hopefully they do some kinda of grandfather in plan if this AWB passes but you never know especially since many more have hi caps now then when the first ban was out plus everyone going out to buy them may be for not. Who knows, Im sure there will be also a trial and error with this new law and I dont know if they know the large scope of enforcing it.
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12-25-2012, 17:24
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Originally Posted by fredj338
...IMO, start planning for it, the AWB will be a permanent law next year. ... So now we get a more severe gun control & a crappy Euro style economy. Thank a liberal or libertarian for this one. 
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I might remind you that the Libertarian party is for significantly less government intrusion and control ... "coin money, deliver the mail, maintain an army" ... pie-in-the-sky, I know, but certainly not Democratic thinking ...
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12-25-2012, 18:18
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I might remind you that the Libertarian party is for significantly less government intrusion and control ... "coin money, deliver the mail, maintain an army" ... pie-in-the-sky, I know, but certainly not Democratic thinking ...
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Oh, preaching to the choire, but they can NOT win a major position so they are near useless & only fragment the two party system so morons like Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Boxer, Reed, etc, etc are still running things. I am all for a principle vote, I don't tow the Republican line, but they can win & they can keep socialist sympathisers out of office.
Defeatest, sure, look what just happened in Nov. How does anyone take away a positive line from that debacle of an election? Once the hook is set, there is little chance of over turning bad laws. Oh I'll continue to fight the fight, but really, who is going to risk a felony conviction & total loss of ones freeedom for a 15 rd magazine? It is a principle w/ me, I don't need a 15rd Glock to be effective in a fight. It's just if you let the bastards get a toe hold, they will continue until all guns are banned. It's happened in many other countries, often after such a tragedy. So we have to be vigilant & out spoken & try to explain to the non gun people facts from fiction.
I am not a big fan of LaPierre, I think he is a poor spokesman for the NRA, but he was right, "only thing that stops a bad guy w/ a gun is a good guy w/ a gun". I vote, I volunteer for canidates but you can't beat the media blitz of lies & non information that is being spewed by the media. Obama shouldn't have been re elected. He should now be impeached for F&F & the Libya mess, but the media won't cover it, so no one cares. What he & his admin are doing to this country's economy should be grounda for jail time on treason. Really, my god, $16.3T in debt, how do we ever come back from that? By the time he is out of office, $21T easy. That can NEVER be reduced significantly by taxation, never. I know, I know, facts are boring things & liberals hate facts, but there it is.
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12-19-2012, 17:35
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I'll stick with 9mm and a G26 most of the time.
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12-19-2012, 17:58
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I'll stick with my 9's: the compact, full size and long slide.
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