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Old 11-18-2012, 16:34   #1
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to the folks who say 9mm would never equal 357

115 grain +p+ 1450 FPS and 501 ft/lbs!!!! HOLY ****


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Does it shoot 158 grainers at 1500fps?
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Does it shoot 158 grainers at 1500fps?



...that it does not do,,,, but energy wise its neck and neck with 357

what do your 158 grainers come in at energy wise?
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...that it does not do,,,, but energy wise its neck and neck with 357

what do your 158 grainers come in at energy wise?
Man, you're probably gonna get lit up soon. You might wanna just go look at .357 mag energy numbers at UW or Buff Bore...
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Man, you're probably gonna get lit up soon. .

oh well. you know the saying, sticks and stones
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......yea i may have jumped the gun a little before posting,

have at me boys i probably deserve it,

still impressive for 9mm tho


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...that it does not do,,,, but energy wise its neck and neck with 357

what do your 158 grainers come in at energy wise?
789 ft/lbs
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789!? i wouldnt want to be on the receiving end of that
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Does it shoot 158 grainers at 1500fps?
No it doesn't.
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Does it shoot 158 grainers at 1500fps?
No, because the 9mm will never have a 8 3/8" barrel that Hornaday uses for that 1500fps!
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No, because the 9mm will never have a 8 3/8" barrel that Hornaday uses for that 1500fps!
Mine does it in a 4".
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Mine does it in a 4".
Yeah, but you don't have 17+1 capacity.

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Yeah, but you don't have 17+1 capacity.

True, that's why I carry a G27
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Does it shoot 158 grainers at 1500fps?
The heaviest bullet loaded for 9x19 us the 147gr JHP, and the +p loading yields 1000 FPS or so. The 9mm will never equal the famed .357 loading of a 125gr JHP going 1450 FPS.
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The heaviest bullet loaded for 9x19 us the 147gr JHP, and the +p loading yields 1000 FPS or so. The 9mm will never equal the famed .357 loading of a 125gr JHP going 1450 FPS.
There have been some 158's in 9mm for suppressed subguns.
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There have been some 158's in 9mm for suppressed subguns.
And it was going way below 1100 FPS. Subsonic, for sure.
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Great video ...Thanks for the share.
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the 9mm underwood out did this 357 mag

in BOTH velocity AND energy


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Yep, in that test. I've really been wanting to use one of these >
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And per usual with 9mm bullets pushed beyond their velocity limits, the penetration sucks.

Also, 501 ft/lbs doesn't come close to full power .357 Magnum loads. Shoot some 125gr Buffalo Bore .357 loads @ 1700 fps and tell me if these 115gr Underwood loads come close. I'll save you the time: they don't.

Sorry, this thread is a fail.
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And per usual with 9mm bullets pushed beyond their velocity limits, the penetration sucks.
When I was new to firearms (not that long ago) I got caught up in velocity/energy numbers without knowing that it's the total cartridge and bullet design that creates effectiveness.

I feel quite comfortable with 9mm for self-defense and although I am currently carrying a +P round I also would feel good about carrying a standard pressure round like HST or Gold Dot, among others.
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And per usual with 9mm bullets pushed beyond their velocity limits, the penetration sucks.

Also, 501 ft/lbs doesn't come close to full power .357 Magnum loads. Shoot some 125gr Buffalo Bore .357 loads @ 1700 fps and tell me if these 115gr Underwood loads come close. I'll save you the time: they don't.

Sorry, this thread is a fail.
Velocity is quite impressive, and the energy....but yes, those bullets were pushed beyond the envelope. I know, because I'm looking at them on my desk. :-)

In the real world, I have to think they WILL NOT expand like that.
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