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11-18-2012, 16:34
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to the folks who say 9mm would never equal 357
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11-18-2012, 16:37
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Does it shoot 158 grainers at 1500fps?
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11-18-2012, 16:39
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Originally Posted by WiskyT
Does it shoot 158 grainers at 1500fps?
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...that it does not do,,,, but energy wise its neck and neck with 357
what do your 158 grainers come in at energy wise?
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11-18-2012, 16:41
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Originally Posted by kswiss
...that it does not do,,,, but energy wise its neck and neck with 357
what do your 158 grainers come in at energy wise?
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Man, you're probably gonna get lit up soon. You might wanna just go look at .357 mag energy numbers at UW or Buff Bore...
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11-18-2012, 16:45
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Originally Posted by uz2bUSMC
Man, you're probably gonna get lit up soon. .
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oh well. you know the saying, sticks and stones
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11-18-2012, 16:47
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......yea i may have jumped the gun a little before posting,
have at me boys i probably deserve it,
still impressive for 9mm tho
flamesuit on! 
Last edited by kswiss; 11-18-2012 at 16:48..
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11-18-2012, 17:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kswiss
...that it does not do,,,, but energy wise its neck and neck with 357
what do your 158 grainers come in at energy wise?
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789 ft/lbs
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11-18-2012, 17:11
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789>501
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11-18-2012, 17:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by clarkz71
789>501
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789!? i wouldnt want to be on the receiving end of that  
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11-18-2012, 17:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WiskyT
Does it shoot 158 grainers at 1500fps?
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No it doesn't. 
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11-19-2012, 20:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WiskyT
Does it shoot 158 grainers at 1500fps?
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No, because the 9mm will never have a 8 3/8" barrel that Hornaday uses for that 1500fps!
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11-19-2012, 20:20
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No, because the 9mm will never have a 8 3/8" barrel that Hornaday uses for that 1500fps!
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Mine does it in a 4".
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11-19-2012, 20:49
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Mmmm... Liver.
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Quote:
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Mine does it in a 4".
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Yeah, but you don't have 17+1 capacity.
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11-20-2012, 01:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zombie Steve
Yeah, but you don't have 17+1 capacity.
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11-20-2012, 16:00
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Quote:
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Yeah, but you don't have 17+1 capacity.
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True, that's why I carry a G27
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11-25-2012, 13:29
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Quote:
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Does it shoot 158 grainers at 1500fps?
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The heaviest bullet loaded for 9x19 us the 147gr JHP, and the +p loading yields 1000 FPS or so. The 9mm will never equal the famed .357 loading of a 125gr JHP going 1450 FPS.
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11-25-2012, 16:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SCmasterblaster
The heaviest bullet loaded for 9x19 us the 147gr JHP, and the +p loading yields 1000 FPS or so. The 9mm will never equal the famed .357 loading of a 125gr JHP going 1450 FPS.
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There have been some 158's in 9mm for suppressed subguns.
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11-26-2012, 10:00
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Quote:
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There have been some 158's in 9mm for suppressed subguns.
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And it was going way below 1100 FPS. Subsonic, for sure.
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11-18-2012, 16:50
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Great video ...Thanks for the share.
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11-18-2012, 16:52
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Quote:
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Great video ...Thanks for the share.
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welcome, sir/maam
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11-18-2012, 16:53
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the 9mm underwood out did this 357 mag
in BOTH velocity AND energy
Last edited by kswiss; 11-18-2012 at 16:55..
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11-18-2012, 17:00
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Yep, in that test. I've really been wanting to use one of these > 
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11-18-2012, 17:29
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And per usual with 9mm bullets pushed beyond their velocity limits, the penetration sucks.
Also, 501 ft/lbs doesn't come close to full power .357 Magnum loads. Shoot some 125gr Buffalo Bore .357 loads @ 1700 fps and tell me if these 115gr Underwood loads come close. I'll save you the time: they don't.
Sorry, this thread is a fail.
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11-19-2012, 09:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WinterWizard
And per usual with 9mm bullets pushed beyond their velocity limits, the penetration sucks.
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When I was new to firearms (not that long ago) I got caught up in velocity/energy numbers without knowing that it's the total cartridge and bullet design that creates effectiveness.
I feel quite comfortable with 9mm for self-defense and although I am currently carrying a +P round I also would feel good about carrying a standard pressure round like HST or Gold Dot, among others.
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11-20-2012, 21:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WinterWizard
And per usual with 9mm bullets pushed beyond their velocity limits, the penetration sucks.
Also, 501 ft/lbs doesn't come close to full power .357 Magnum loads. Shoot some 125gr Buffalo Bore .357 loads @ 1700 fps and tell me if these 115gr Underwood loads come close. I'll save you the time: they don't.
Sorry, this thread is a fail.
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Velocity is quite impressive, and the energy....but yes, those bullets were pushed beyond the envelope. I know, because I'm looking at them on my desk. :-)
In the real world, I have to think they WILL NOT expand like that.
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