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Old 11-13-2012, 17:29   #1
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PA State Police may go 45 acp

Pulled over today for DOT check and when finished got on the subject of Glocks which they have G 37 in the Gap. The officer said they are testing G21 in 45acp right now . and he did not care for the old Beretta 40 cal they had . The officer was courteous .Every thing was good on my spot check.
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Old 11-13-2012, 17:49   #2
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Blah, blah, blah, who gives a crap what the PA state police are doing
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Old 11-13-2012, 20:51   #3
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What makes you so bitter toward PSP? Some pending state charges you want to tell us about?

OP, thanks for the info. Nice to hear my state tax dollars are going toward sensible spending for a change (even if I am a G23 man myself).
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:07   #4
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What makes you so bitter toward PSP? Some pending state charges you want to tell us about?
No.

Nothing toward the PSP in particular. I just cant stand that everytime some PD talks about switching calibers everyone wants to jump on the band wagon. LIke the PD is the final word on caliber. It's usually just because they got a new captain or cheif and they need to justify their job.

And come on. They are "testing" a G21 45acp? LIke the 21 or the 45acp has not been proven over an over already.

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Old 11-14-2012, 11:19   #5
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[...] And come on. They are "testing" a G21 45acp? LIke the 21 or the 45acp has not been proven over an over already.
You make a very fair point, but I'm sure lawyers and politicians require the testing.
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Old 11-14-2012, 14:29   #6
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Nothing toward the PSP in particular. I just cant stand that everytime some PD talks about switching calibers everyone wants to jump on the band wagon. LIke the PD is the final word on caliber. It's usually just because they got a new captain or cheif and they need to justify their job.

And come on. They are "testing" a G21 45acp? LIke the 21 or the 45acp has not been proven over an over already.
It is not only about testing the weapon for function, reliability, etc. It is important for large police agencies to test the prospective weapons with the people who will be issued same weapons. For example, the strong shooters, the weak shooters, the males with large hands, the females with small hands, patrol units, investigative units, etc. The weapon has to be a "fit" for the people using it. Not to test the weapons in this manner would be irresponsible.
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Old 11-14-2012, 16:19   #7
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What model Beretta were they carrying in .40?

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Old 11-19-2012, 00:36   #8
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It is not only about testing the weapon for function, reliability, etc. It is important for large police agencies to test the prospective weapons with the people who will be issued same weapons. For example, the strong shooters, the weak shooters, the males with large hands, the females with small hands, patrol units, investigative units, etc. The weapon has to be a "fit" for the people using it. Not to test the weapons in this manner would be irresponsible.
And to add, testing for fit in holsters with summer gear, winter gear, teams that serve other purposes outside of classic "road patrol" (ESU/Rescue/SWAT), testing with flashlights, testing for fit on a belt that already has/needs 5-8 other items there, testing with gloves, etc.

A study on a flat piece of paper is great, but most of us don't buy even the most mundane of products without some hands on time with the product. We check out furniture, cars, beds, gloves, eyeglasses, etc.

What says a dept that is telling it's officers about a critical piece of gear they may have to, and in many cases, will have to roll the fate of their lives on?


Would you (not you 4949) be cool with buying and using a parachute because another agency tested it extensively? NOT ME!
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Old 11-29-2012, 23:44   #9
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If they're going to switch to anything, why wouldn't they switch to .357 Sig? Better barrier penetration than .45, if I remember right. And more rounds.

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No.

Nothing toward the PSP in particular. I just cant stand that everytime some PD talks about switching calibers everyone wants to jump on the band wagon. LIke the PD is the final word on caliber. It's usually just because they got a new captain or cheif and they need to justify their job.

And come on. They are "testing" a G21 45acp? LIke the 21 or the 45acp has not been proven over an over already.
And I can't stand when people who know they'll just complain about the subject, still go in the thread.
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Old 12-19-2013, 16:04   #10
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No.

Nothing toward the PSP in particular. I just cant stand that everytime some PD talks about switching calibers everyone wants to jump on the band wagon. LIke the PD is the final word on caliber. It's usually just because they got a new captain or cheif and they need to justify their job.

And come on. They are "testing" a G21 45acp? LIke the 21 or the 45acp has not been proven over an over already.
Wow, sense a bit of hostility !

Good post OP. Thanks for the info.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:17   #11
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I do.
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:34   #13
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Old 12-01-2012, 17:08   #14
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Huh?

Many of us on these gun related sites have something of an interest in the weapons carried by police and other professional agencies - right?
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Old 11-29-2013, 07:21   #15
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I do. When a member takes the time to post gun experiences, some of us appreciate it. How about you rain in.

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What is it with newbs trolling others threads
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That type of attitude and rudeness is why Glocktalk.com gets a bad reputation . Have some respect .
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Old 12-21-2013, 09:03   #18
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Yet you feel compelled to both read and post about it. I am interested in this as an avid GAP owner and shooter (and former Pennsylvanian).

Thanks for your valuable input.

Keeping it going.........
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You must. You clicked on the post.
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I do. Who twisted your nads this morning? Maybe your Jockie's are on backwards.
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Old 11-13-2012, 17:50   #21
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A PSP Trooper told me he could not get the dept to give him any extra .45 GAP ammo. He said that when they carried .40 cal. Beretta's he could usually get an extra box or two of ammo. I'm not sure how much GAP ammo they are issued ie: a 50 round box or just the 31 rounds carried on their person.
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A PSP Trooper told me he could not get the dept to give him any extra .45 GAP ammo. He said that when they carried .40 cal. Beretta's he could usually get an extra box or two of ammo. I'm not sure how much GAP ammo they are issued ie: a 50 round box or just the 31 rounds carried on their person.
Ammunition cost,just maybe the reason for the switch. SJ 40
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Interesting..
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Old 11-13-2012, 18:05   #25
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Here in miami, most officers carry G21's or G22's.
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