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11-05-2012, 15:45
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A Maritime 1911
I do a fair amount of work around water, not to mention on a boat, and as I've decided to transition over to a 1911 as my EDC, I'm starting to think about how to make one fit for that kind of environment. The desert and the sea are said to be two environments the 1911 doesn't handle well. Don't plan on going to the desert anytime soon, but I'd like to solve the sea problem.
I'm not going to abuse my Baer more than I already have, so I'll need something new to start with. I'm thinking I'd like something with a rail, and a Government-sized frame. Mostly going between the Rail Gun and one of Springfield's many iterations of the Operator, and honestly leaning towards the Rail Gun, just 'cause, you know, America.
Here's the real question, though: I'm assuming I'll need to get it refinished. What am I looking for? The HE coating on my HK P30 has handled salt water like a champ, but I doubt HK'd be willing to perform that process on somebody else's gun.
Any particular reliability smithing I should get done?
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11-05-2012, 15:54
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11-05-2012, 16:11
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NP3+  It's THE maritime finish.
My Baer TRS has been finished in that and I like it a lot. 
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11-06-2012, 08:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by glock2740
NP3+ It's THE maritime finish. |
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11-05-2012, 16:08
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An all stainless gun would solve most of your problem.
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11-05-2012, 16:12
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Stainless will do it.
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11-05-2012, 16:56
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I'm not much for stainless 1911s, but that's probably the way I'd go in your situation.
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11-05-2012, 17:15
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Stainless can and will rust. Especially around salt water.
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11-05-2012, 17:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by glock2740
Stainless can and will rust. Especially around salt water.
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Yep,..........
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11-05-2012, 20:23
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Quote:
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Stainless can and will rust. Especially around salt water.
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Very true
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11-05-2012, 22:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by glock2740
Stainless can and will rust. Especially around salt water.
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I agree. Stainless will rust. Just keep whichever gun you use well oiled and just go through her regularly.
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11-05-2012, 22:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by glock2740
Stainless can and will rust. Especially around salt water.
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Exactly. Quick fast in a hurry.
Around water you'll need a GOOD finish of some sort. Take your pick, there's a ton of good ones.
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11-06-2012, 10:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by glock2740
Stainless can and will rust. Especially around salt water.
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So's everything short of titanium.
At least stainless steel doesn't depend on a coating to have corrosion resistance.
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11-06-2012, 10:28
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11-07-2012, 11:57
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When I lived in South Florida on the water, I had a stainless Ed Brown Kobra Black-T'd. I figured that stainless+Black-T was at least doing my part to prevent rust.
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11-20-2012, 20:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by glock2740
Stainless can and will rust. Especially around salt water.
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I agree, it is definitely not what I would want. Go with Cerakote, Birdsong T, or NP3. Any of those will hold up quite well.
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11-05-2012, 17:03
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I carried a 1911 during my shipboard time in the Navy as a rover. No special coatings, paints or anything...just kept it oiled. No rust in 5 years on any of the 1911's that were in the regular watch rotations. My personal experience is that the extra stuff is not really needed.
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11-05-2012, 17:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by klmmicro
I carried a 1911 during my shipboard time in the Navy as a rover. No special coatings, paints or anything...just kept it oiled. No rust in 5 years on any of the 1911's that were in the regular watch rotations. My personal experience is that the extra stuff is not really needed.
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Agreed. Maintenance is the key for sure. Keeping a maritime gun wet (rimshot), is the best way to keep it in top shape.
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11-05-2012, 17:22
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Get a stainless gun get it bead blasted and cerakote.....no rust.. or hard hat....
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11-05-2012, 20:41
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Cerakote over stainless.
And use of a lanyard loop!!!!!!
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11-11-2012, 21:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pistolwrench
Cerakote over stainless.
And use of a lanyard loop!!!!!!
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You won't get a better answer from a better source anywhere.
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11-05-2012, 23:10
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Colt Rail Gun and a can of Eezox. Set.
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11-05-2012, 23:46
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For what it's worth, I kept an old 1911 essex frame, gov't slide parkerized model on a boat in the Bahamas for years and years. It sat in one of those cheapo foam filled plastic cases locked up, but in salt air. Never an issue of rust with an occasional oiling.
What about an SR1911 and lube her up with froglube?
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11-06-2012, 05:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shark1007
For what it's worth, I kept an old 1911 essex frame, gov't slide parkerized model on a boat in the Bahamas for years and years. It sat in one of those cheapo foam filled plastic cases locked up, but in salt air. Never an issue of rust with an occasional oiling.
What about an SR1911 and lube her up with froglube?
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No rail, unless I'm mistaken. I have heard good things about that SR1911, though.
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11-06-2012, 08:57
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NP3+ is a good finish for sure.
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