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Old 11-04-2012, 13:17   #1
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Thoughts on a concealed carry weapon

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Old 11-04-2012, 13:39   #2
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Good choice! I carry a G17!
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Old 11-04-2012, 14:34   #3
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He advocates the use of the mind more than selecting a particular gun IMO - kudos to him.
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Old 11-04-2012, 15:04   #4
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He advocates the use of the mind more than selecting a particular gun IMO - kudos to him.
That's right. We should use our heads before, during, and after a defensive shooting.
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:25   #5
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He advocates the use of the mind more than selecting a particular gun IMO - kudos to him.
IMHO this can never get enough reinforcement.
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Didn't the whole sheepdog thing actually start right here on Glock Talk? A bunch of wannabees bought a bunch of T-shirts and took an oath to defend those who won't defend themselves?
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Old 11-04-2012, 15:19   #6
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Great video....nice choice.....
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Old 11-04-2012, 19:16   #8
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hmmmm... lots to think about here: high chance of facing two assailants, statistical probability of missed shots... both speak in favor of high capacity 9mm but whre are the figures on how many shots are actually fired in a civilian (rather than law enforcement officer) self-defense situation? I recall reading that a high percentage of assailants, seeing their intended victim's gun, high-tail it before any shots are fired. I'm still no convinced that 9mm is the way to go.
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Old 11-04-2012, 19:48   #9
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Nice video. I fully respect his opinions. I usually opt for less rounds, with a G26, but for me, concealability is critical. I do have a G19 and G30 as well.
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Old 11-04-2012, 20:10   #10
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Too bad he doesn't have any actual stats on how often more than 10 rounds are needed. I'd be willing to guess it's < 1%. Yet his most important factor appears to be capacity.

I'm fine with 9 but come on, let's not get silly. Capacity is NOT the main reason to go with a 9, IMO. It's a bonus, not a reason.

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I am glad I have 17 9mm rounds in my G17

and no, I don't expect to need all 17 of them, But, we have all heard the horror stories about the drug-crazed felons who soak up the bullets, large or small.
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and no, I don't expect to need all 17 of them, But, we have all heard the horror stories about the drug-crazed felons who soak up the bullets, large or small.
Tiny, TINY, percentage. And who is to say that a larger bullet would not help? It certainly might as the total wound volume would be drastically increased with so many hits.

Again, capacity is a bonus. No one ever complains about having too many bullets. But I don't pick 9's because it carries 1 or 2 more rounds than the .40.

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Old 11-13-2012, 21:31   #13
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and no, I don't expect to need all 17 of them, But, we have all heard the horror stories about the drug-crazed felons who soak up the bullets, large or small.
Due to back surgery, I'm drug crazed. My chances of encountering and entering into a gunfight with a drug crazed felon are next to none. If I went looking for that kind of trouble, I'm sure I'd find it.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:24   #14
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Not sure how the video ends, I quit watching after he said a Glock 30 is uncontrollable when firing one handed.

Just another 9mm is better video as far as I am concerned.

If half the shots fired miss the target shouldn't you be carrying the gun you find the most accurate to shoot. This might turn out to be a 9mm but how could you know without trying out other calibers.

As much as I like my Glocks, yes plural, not everyone like shooting them or find that they are less accurate with them.
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Old 11-04-2012, 21:30   #15
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Here are my thoughts on the subject:

There is no substitute for absolute gun/ammo reliability; so carry a weapon loaded with quality JHP self-defense ammo that always fires when you pull the trigger.

Most civilian self-defense shootings are at close range with 3-5 shots expended. Capacity is a great thing especially considering multiple assailants, but if after 8-10 rounds trying to stop the threat one or more of the determined perps will probably have managed to successfully target the lone defender. Reloading at this point seems to be a pipe dream for the typical untutored civilian like me.

When I visit the shooting range the first thing I do is shoot my carry ammo rapid fire in 2-shot, 3-shot, and 5-shot burst from the cold pistol to satisfy the gun/ammo reliability. This doesn't guarantee things will always go as designed (there are never any guarantees) but it does provide a real world test protocol and provides a great amount of reassurance that if I do my part the chosen apparatus will do it's part.
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Old 11-05-2012, 13:29   #16
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Most civilian self-defense shootings are at close range with 3-5 shots expended...
Actually, in the vast majority of civilian self-defense shootings, the number of shots fired is 1.
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Actually, in the vast majority of civilian self-defense shootings, the number of shots fired is 1.
Really? Just one shot? I wouldn't rely on a single shot unless it was to the forehead.
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Really? Just one shot? I wouldn't rely on a single shot unless it was to the forehead.
Yeah, I did some research on this about a year ago for a project. Of three fairly extensive studies, a single shot was fired way more than any other number. Kinda surprised me too.
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Yeah, I did some research on this about a year ago for a project. Of three fairly extensive studies, a single shot was fired way more than any other number. Kinda surprised me too.
Are LEOs taught to fire only once?
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