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10-31-2012, 21:09
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Think Tank not required to reach that conclusion.
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11-01-2012, 08:46
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Originally Posted by certifiedfunds
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I have to agree - it couldn't be more obvious. Not to mention, the "opponents" who "questioned some of the study's assumptions" seem to be just trying to make up some vague response that isn't even rational.
However, the effect of legalization in some states and not others will result in a massive marijuana industry in those states, since they can then safely grow it and export to the illegal states without crossing any international borders. There is no random search when you cross from Colorado to Kansas. The effect will be double-edged. It will hurt the Mexican drug dealers a lot more than this study guesses, but it will increase the supply of marijuana and decrease the cost, in the states that don't legalize it.
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11-01-2012, 09:12
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Originally Posted by Bren
I have to agree - it couldn't be more obvious. Not to mention, the "opponents" who "questioned some of the study's assumptions" seem to be just trying to make up some vague response that isn't even rational.
However, the effect of legalization in some states and not others will result in a massive marijuana industry in those states, since they can then safely grow it and export to the illegal states without crossing any international borders. There is no random search when you cross from Colorado to Kansas. The effect will be double-edged. It will hurt the Mexican drug dealers a lot more than this study guesses, but it will increase the supply of marijuana and decrease the cost, in the states that don't legalize it.
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This is already happening due to the Medical Marijuana states, high quality Marijuana on the streets at least around here come from states that have Medical Marijuana.
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11-01-2012, 09:57
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Originally Posted by RC-RAMIE
This is already happening due to the Medical Marijuana states, high quality Marijuana on the streets at least around here come from states that have Medical Marijuana.
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So the positive effects are spreading.
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11-01-2012, 10:02
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The legalization of marijuana would not hurt the Mexican drug cartels one bit, because they would just take over the pot industry in the United States.
Legalizing marijuana is a very, very bad idea for many reasons.
Least of which would be the drug war between the American growers and the Mexican drug lords as they fight for control of the marijuana trade in the United States.
Legalize marijuana and you'll instantly bring all the Mexican drug violence into the United States.
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11-01-2012, 10:11
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Originally Posted by JBnTX
The legalization of marijuana would not hurt the Mexican drug cartels one bit, because they would just take over the pot industry in the United States.
Legalizing marijuana is a very, very bad idea for many reasons.
Least of which would be the drug war between the American growers and the Mexican drug lords as they fight for control of the marijuana trade in the United States.
Legalize marijuana and you'll instantly bring all the Mexican drug violence into the United States.
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Proof that your business accumen is every bit as sharp as your political accumen.
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11-01-2012, 10:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JBnTX
The legalization of marijuana would not hurt the Mexican drug cartels one bit, because they would just take over the pot industry in the United States.
Legalizing marijuana is a very, very bad idea for many reasons.
Least of which would be the drug war between the American growers and the Mexican drug lords as they fight for control of the marijuana trade in the United States.
Legalize marijuana and you'll instantly bring all the Mexican drug violence into the United States.
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I think you forgot the sarcastic smiley.
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11-01-2012, 11:00
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Originally Posted by JBnTX
The legalization of marijuana would not hurt the Mexican drug cartels one bit, because they would just take over the pot industry in the United States.
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Yep, this is exactly what happened with the alcohol cartels (aka bootleggers) after alcohol was legalized. The alcohol cartels are more powerful than ever. There's not a day that goes by there isn't some story in the news about gang violence involving alcohol dealing. My alcohol dealer got killed just last week. That's the second in a month. We need to make alcohol illegal to get these cartels out of the country.
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11-01-2012, 19:04
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Originally Posted by JBnTX
Legalize marijuana and you'll instantly bring all the Mexican drug violence into the United States.
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Might as well just legalize it by your argument. What you are saying is the cartels will control it one way or the other. At least if it is legal, the profit for them drops considerably.
Seriously, you think the cartels will set up state regulated dispensaries?
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11-05-2012, 13:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JBnTX
The legalization of marijuana would not hurt the Mexican drug cartels one bit, because they would just take over the pot industry in the United States.
Legalizing marijuana is a very, very bad idea for many reasons.
Least of which would be the drug war between the American growers and the Mexican drug lords as they fight for control of the marijuana trade in the United States.
Legalize marijuana and you'll instantly bring all the Mexican drug violence into the United States.
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I'm just wondering how old you are ? Do your own research and maybe we can talk.........!
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11-07-2012, 01:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JBnTX
The legalization of marijuana would not hurt the Mexican drug cartels one bit, because they would just take over the pot industry in the United States.
Legalizing marijuana is a very, very bad idea for many reasons.
Least of which would be the drug war between the American growers and the Mexican drug lords as they fight for control of the marijuana trade in the United States.
Legalize marijuana and you'll instantly bring all the Mexican drug violence into the United States.
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Come on are the cartels here now battling big pharma companies who literally push legal heroin on doctors, who then push it on patients. I know away too many people hooked on heroin(oxycodone, fentanyl, morphine-thy are litterally legal heroin) and it sometimes hits too c,lose to home.
This is a major epidemic, I know its hurting the cartels sales of street heroin , I don't see them killing off pharmaceutical companys
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11-01-2012, 11:13
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Originally Posted by Bren
However, the effect of legalization in some states and not others will result in a massive marijuana industry in those states, since they can then safely grow it and export to the illegal states without crossing any international borders.
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Well hot damn. We can make money on this. That is a wise move to found a booming industry.
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11-01-2012, 11:27
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Originally Posted by Bren
I have to agree - it couldn't be more obvious. Not to mention, the "opponents" who "questioned some of the study's assumptions" seem to be just trying to make up some vague response that isn't even rational.
However, the effect of legalization in some states and not others will result in a massive marijuana industry in those states, since they can then safely grow it and export to the illegal states without crossing any international borders. There is no random search when you cross from Colorado to Kansas. The effect will be double-edged. It will hurt the Mexican drug dealers a lot more than this study guesses, but it will increase the supply of marijuana and decrease the cost, in the states that don't legalize it.
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The return of the Bootleggers.
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10-31-2012, 21:17
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PINK:MJNA lots of volume, closed near open, but should jump if one of the three states pass their laws (Washington & Colorado [possible] and Oregon [unlikely]). I'm waiting for a bump in a different penny stock to cover my transaction costs to buy 10k shares.
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11-01-2012, 08:36
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Originally Posted by PettyOfficer
PINK:MJNA lots of volume, closed near open, but should jump if one of the three states pass their laws (Washington & Colorado [possible] and Oregon [unlikely]). I'm waiting for a bump in a different penny stock to cover my transaction costs to buy 10k shares.
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I think Colorado has a real good chance on passing it next week. I wonder how long after the other 17 medical Marijuana states will put bills to make it legal interesting times.
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11-01-2012, 07:31
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Sinatra said it best: Doobie Doobie Do. Do Do Dee Doo Doo. Doobie Doobie Doo. Dah Dah Dee Doo Doo. Doobie Doobie Do. Doo Doobie Doo-Bie Doooooooo.
We'll have Medical MJ here soon - i can't see big resistance to our bill up next week. (Although this IS the state that voted FOR seatbelts, then AGAINST seat belts and then was the last state to VOTE them back in. LOL I think we were the last state for Right on Red, too. So we could be way behind the doobie-curve here.)
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11-01-2012, 07:57
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Originally Posted by Dennis in MA
Sinatra said it best: Doobie Doobie Do. Do Do Dee Doo Doo. Doobie Doobie Doo. Dah Dah Dee Doo Doo. Doobie Doobie Do. Doo Doobie Doo-Bie Doooooooo.
We'll have Medical MJ here soon - i can't see big resistance to our bill up next week. (Although this IS the state that voted FOR seatbelts, then AGAINST seat belts and then was the last state to VOTE them back in. LOL I think we were the last state for Right on Red, too. So we could be way behind the doobie-curve here.)
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Question on medical marajuana - do you smoke it like normal marajuana? Is it the same stuff?
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11-01-2012, 08:00
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Originally Posted by SC Tiger
Question on medical marajuana - do you smoke it like normal marajuana? Is it the same stuff?
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Exactly the same thing.
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11-01-2012, 08:49
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Originally Posted by Hauptmann6
Exactly the same thing.
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I believe some growers grow low THC, high CBD strains for medicinal use.
I don't know anything about it beyond that though.
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11-05-2012, 09:33
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Originally Posted by Lampshade
I believe some growers grow low THC, high CBD strains for medicinal use.
I don't know anything about it beyond that though.
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I'll bet those aren't great sellers.
I've never met a marijuana user yet who didn't want the highest THC he could get and/or afford.
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11-01-2012, 18:34
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Originally Posted by Hauptmann6
Exactly the same thing.
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Good to know. I've never had medical MJ.
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11-03-2012, 17:19
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Originally Posted by hogfish
Good to know. I've never had medical MJ. 
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Me either. But I know a few people who have cards. They use the same dealer as before they got their card.
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11-01-2012, 08:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SC Tiger
Question on medical marajuana - do you smoke it like normal marajuana? Is it the same stuff?
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Smoke it every 4 hours with food.
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11-01-2012, 08:40
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Originally Posted by muscogee
Smoke it every 4 hours with food.
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Same as most recreational users.
   
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