Carry concealed on military base??????

glock361963 · 10-31-2012, 19:40

If visiting or picking up someone on a military base.In a state that accepts your ccw.What do you do?Surrender carry gun to security at main gate?Store gun unloaded and locked in a case?

PettyOfficer · 10-31-2012, 19:49

Leave it at home or leave it in the trunk and drive to the security office to ask: do not attempt to drive into the gate with a firearm in your vehicle.

The security office is usually accessible without entering the base proper and you can enter and ask (unarmed).

Security gate personnel do not have the resources to secure your firearm and by that point you are on base and it can get more complicated.

PettyOfficer · 10-31-2012, 19:51

Or just call ahead and ask... Easy.

Breadman03 · 10-31-2012, 20:38

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Or just call ahead and ask... Easy.

That is what I did at Tobyhanna. They wanted me to approach with my pistol cleared and not in my hands. Just be sure to call ahead and get solid info.

Arc Angel · 11-01-2012, 16:59

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That is what I did at Tobyhanna. They wanted me to approach with my pistol cleared and not in my hands. Just be sure to call ahead and get solid info.

You carried a weapon on Depot property? Then you're either associated with Depot Security, or some other branch of the U.S. Military that allows you to go armed.

Civilian weapons on Tobyhanna Army Depot property are strictly forbidden.

http://www.tobyhanna.army.mil/about/visitor.html

Furthermore, at Fort Indiantown Gap you and your gun wouldn't get past the Main Gate. Since 9/11 there are no civilian weapons on any Pennsylvania military base that I know of.

Breadman03 · 11-01-2012, 22:00

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Originally Posted by Arc Angel

You carried a weapon on Depot property? Then you're either associated with Depot Security, or some other branch of the U.S. Military that allows you to go armed.

Civilian weapons on Tobyhanna Army Depot property are strictly forbidden.

http://www.tobyhanna.army.mil/about/visitor.html

Furthermore, at Fort Indiantown Gap you and your gun wouldn't get past the Main Gate. Since 9/11 there are no civilian weapons on any Pennsylvania military base that I know of.

I checked my pistol in a locker at the gate. They wanted me to approach with the pistol already cleared and sitting on the seat. I received a property receipt and just picked my pistol up on the way out, 2-3 times a week for 6 years.

My advice is to call ahead and get your information direct from the base.

skew12 · 10-31-2012, 19:53

These guys are right. Simply finding ammo in your vehicle can get you in trouble on some bases.

concretefuzzynuts · 10-31-2012, 20:41

This is a definite NO. Don't even chance it.

Glockrunner · 11-01-2012, 04:23

It is strictly up to the commanding officer of the base, they set the procedures and guidelines.

Call ahead and ask. Heed what they say for it is a felony to do otherwise.

***Gallium*** · 11-01-2012, 05:30

Thanks for at least asking 1st, instead of doing something rash.

No, as others have stated, it is not done.

Clutch Cargo · 11-01-2012, 06:17

Lots of dead soldiers on Ft Hood because THEY are not even allowed to carry.

SCmasterblaster · 11-03-2012, 13:18

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Lots of dead soldiers on Ft Hood because THEY are not even allowed to carry.

True. That was a terrible shooting spree.

PettyOfficer · 11-01-2012, 06:57

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Lots of dead soldiers on Ft Hood because THEY are not even allowed to carry.

This is a little inflammatory: any CONUS base I've ever been on during my tour didn't allow unrestricted carry: only security personnel and those who've taken the measures to be authorized in advance bring their personal firearms on base directly to an armory for storage, and vice versa.

Jeremy_K · 11-01-2012, 06:59

Most places if you notify the gate guard he can send a car to escort you to the armory. They'll keep it at the armory for the duration of your stay.

Clutch Cargo · 11-01-2012, 23:06

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Originally Posted by PettyOfficer

This is a little inflammatory: any CONUS base I've ever been on during my tour didn't allow unrestricted carry: only security personnel and those who've taken the measures to be authorized in advance bring their personal firearms on base directly to an armory for storage, and vice versa.

It's NOT in the least inflammatory. I had friends that were MURDERED because they could not carry to defend themselves. I KNOW it's that way on evey CONUS base, and THE RULE NEEDS TO BE CHANGED! Don't EVEN try and go there.

I was never allowed to carry unless tending the deployment armory. ALL other times, as with the case of my murdered friends, I WAS NOT allowed to carry for my own protection.

Glock Holliday · 11-06-2012, 15:31

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It's NOT in the least inflammatory. I had friends that were MURDERED because they could not carry to defend themselves...

Political Correctness murdered those soldiers. The Army had a lot of warning the terrorist major was gonna go off but if they woulda tried to counsel him, they would been branded racist. Instead of trying to hold him accountable at Walter Reed they promoted him so he could 'go off' on someone else's watch.

I admittedly wasn't there but the Army is a reflection of the country it serves and that's just the way I figure it went down. (Ironically, my oldest was deployed with The First Team to Iraq when this terrorist attack occurred... where she was required to carry a M16A2 24/7 for protection.)

SCmasterblaster · 11-07-2012, 10:18

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Political Correctness murdered those soldiers. The Army had a lot of warning the terrorist major was gonna go off but if they woulda tried to counsel him, they would been branded racist. Instead of trying to hold him accountable at Walter Reed they promoted him so he could 'go off' on someone else's watch.

I admittedly wasn't there but the Army is a reflection of the country it serves and that's just the way I figure it went down. (Ironically, my oldest was deployed with The First Team to Iraq when this terrorist attack occurred... where she was required to carry a M16A2 24/7 for protection.)

An other reason to dislike political correctness!

SCmasterblaster · 11-03-2012, 12:42

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Originally Posted by PettyOfficer

This is a little inflammatory: any CONUS base I've ever been on during my tour didn't allow unrestricted carry: only security personnel and those who've taken the measures to be authorized in advance bring their personal firearms on base directly to an armory for storage, and vice versa.

Hey PettyOfficer! You must be ex-USN like me. I was an STG2.

cowboy1964 · 11-03-2012, 13:01

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Originally Posted by PettyOfficer

This is a little inflammatory: any CONUS base I've ever been on during my tour didn't allow unrestricted carry: only security personnel and those who've taken the measures to be authorized in advance bring their personal firearms on base directly to an armory for storage, and vice versa.

I don't think he was trying to be inflammatory. My sense is he was just pointing out that if even the regular troops can't be armed then Joe Civilian Blow better not even show up at the gate with something.

SCmasterblaster · 11-01-2012, 14:23

I'd definitely call ahead. My local VA hospital has a noticeable sign at every entrance banning all weapons. Every time I go there for an appointment, I feel naked.

Gunnut 45/454 · 11-01-2012, 16:43

Fedral law does not recognize your right to carry on Federal Property. Unload and place in a carry case or trunk. Some bases and or Commanders have different -more restrictive rules!

SCmasterblaster · 11-02-2012, 09:26

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Originally Posted by Gunnut 45/454

Fedral law does not recognize your right to carry on Federal Property. Unload and place in a carry case or trunk. Some bases and or Commanders have different -more restrictive rules!

That is correct. The VA Hospital here in Vermont doesn't allow weapons at all.

owl6roll · 11-01-2012, 17:41

<~~~~wouldn't even think about! Tried to ride a motorcyle onto an AFB, for an air show, won't do that again, ever!

Ammo9000 · 11-01-2012, 20:39

Depends on the base. I'm stationed in ND and you can drive on base with a pistol but you CANNOT conceal carry! you must have the gun stored in the furthermost rear compartment of the vehicle, unloaded, and ammo stored in a different compartment of your vehicle. also ammo cannot be in the magazine when stored.

every base is different tho. i go hunting almost every day after work and have my shotgun in my vehicle at all times. its in plain view of security forces when going through the gate and never had a problem.

best bet it don't even attempt to carry on base before you know the rules unless you want an M4 pressed against your skull and face in the mud!!!

what base do you plan on visiting?

teleblaster · 11-02-2012, 10:45

Ft. Sam Houston in San Antonio has no firearms signs. If you live in town I guess it is not too bad, but if you come from out of town, as many do, you either drive down unarmed, or break the law to visit your relative's grave.