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Old 10-13-2012, 11:54   #1
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Why NRA ?

Is the money given to the NRA worth it? I know they fight mightily for our 2nd amendment rights. Is their influence that great with our politicians? I'm thinking of joining.
I own many guns, mainly for hunting. I quit hunting and started fishing...and the fishing industry has their whacked out folks too, wanting to ban this or that.
The reason I joined this GT is I want to learn about handguns. I bought a G 26 and have applied for my CC permit. The more I read about handguns, the more I feel the gun industry is under attack. Anyway, enough of my ranting, Why did you join the NRA?
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:07   #2
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Anyone who owns and enjoys their firearms and understands our rights should be a member of the NRA. They do have influence and do use it.

Another organization you should consider is the Second Amendment Foundation. They are the ones who brought the Heller case up and eventually dragged the NRA on board with them.

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Old 10-13-2012, 18:59   #3
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Anyone who owns and enjoys their firearms and understands our rights should be a member of the NRA. They do have influence and do use it.

Another organization you should consider is the Second Amendment Foundation. They are the ones who brought the Heller case up and eventually dragged the NRA on board with them.
This.

The more members the NRA has the greater their influence and the more selective they can be with who they put their support behind. Also the SAF is an excellent group. I support them as well in additional to several local group.

There is something like 80 million gun owners in the US but the NRA only has something on the order of 4.3 million members.. If only half the gun owners in the US were a members of the NRA, we would have very very little to worry about from politicians infringing on our right of self defense.

Just imagine if every gun owner in the US was an NRA and SAF member..

There are two types of gun owners, those who are riding in the wagon and those who are pulling it. If you are not a member of at least one of the great groups that support our rights then you are just free loading on the work of others.
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Old 10-13-2012, 19:09   #4
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Life member NRA.
My wife and I have a family membership in the ISRA.
GOA member.
I think my membership in JPFO just expired.
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:08   #5
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I think they must spend 90% of the money sending out junk mail.
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:41   #6
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I think they must spend 90% of the money sending out junk mail.
If that's your best conclusion, then let your membership expire. We have little room for whiners.

Before you do, ask the folk in England, Australia and Canada what is more annoying, losing their right to own and enjoy firearms or some mail that they had to toss in the trash every so often.

The NRA costs money, so they solicit from their members and the public just like any other business and the means they use mailings and emails and such. If it didn't work, they wouldn't do it.
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:55   #7
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If that's your best conclusion, then let your membership expire. We have little room for whiners.

Before you do, ask the folk in England, Australia and Canada what is more annoying, losing their right to own and enjoy firearms or some mail that they had to toss in the trash every so often.

The NRA costs money, so they solicit from their members and the public just like any other business and the means they use mailings and emails and such. If it didn't work, they wouldn't do it.
Little sensitive eh? Must be on the NRA junk mail committee.
My membership cannot expire, I am a life member. If you don't think sending offers for life insurance etc. 2X a week if stupid then I guess we will just agree to disagree.
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:57   #8
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Little sensitive eh? Must be on the NRA junk mail committee.
My membership cannot expire, I am a life member. If you don't think sending offers for life insurance etc. 2X a week if stupid then I guess we will just agree to disagree.
We disagree.
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Old 10-14-2012, 22:40   #9
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Little sensitive eh? Must be on the NRA junk mail committee.
My membership cannot expire, I am a life member. If you don't think sending offers for life insurance etc. 2X a week if stupid then I guess we will just agree to disagree.
There is a telephone number on the back of your card that you can call to end the unsolicited mail.

That said, you are still a whiner that annoys everyone.
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Old 10-15-2012, 18:14   #10
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Little sensitive eh? Must be on the NRA junk mail committee.
My membership cannot expire, I am a life member. If you don't think sending offers for life insurance etc. 2X a week if stupid then I guess we will just agree to disagree.
That's weird. I am also a life member and I never hear anything from them. Wonder if they lost my address?
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Old 10-13-2012, 19:27   #11
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I think they must spend 90% of the money sending out junk mail.
This.

I never did like their attitude toward their members. I dumped them long ago.

NRA

No Real Action.

When other people do all the hard work and get results, the NRA is there just in time to take all the credit.

No thank you.
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Old 10-14-2012, 03:12   #12
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This.

I never did like their attitude toward their members. I dumped them long ago.

NRA

No Real Action.

When other people do all the hard work and get results, the NRA is there just in time to take all the credit.

No thank you.
Do you happen to know why you no longer get bright orange tags on the outside of your luggage when you fly with a firearm? Did you ever wonder who lobbied for there to be a sunset in the Assault Weapon Ban instead of it being permanent from the get-go? Have you considered why there is no permanent 5 day waiting period on all firearm purchases and the instant check became the standard instead?

Yeah, other places (SAF) tend to initiate a lot of the lawsuits but for the lobbying, it's the NRA above and beyond anyone.

Oh yeah, a lot of people got and get down on the NRA for being a Johnny come lately to the McDonald case and some even think the NRA horned in and came close to blowing the case entirely after the SAF started it. One day really read the McDonald findings, all of them, and look at who brought up what arguments (2d amendment, 14th amendment, etc) and what the finding for the defendant actually hinged on. Just to put it out there for consideration, it was the NRA's argument that the majority ruled on, NOT any one else's.

So, yeah, they do stuff. The SAF is excellent for lawsuits and I'll give them money every day of the week but the NRA is the one actually lobbying in the congress as well as the state houses, where the SAF is not. Two organizations that do different things.
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Old 10-14-2012, 04:33   #13
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Do you happen to know why you no longer get bright orange tags on the outside of your luggage when you fly with a firearm? Did you ever wonder who lobbied for there to be a sunset in the Assault Weapon Ban instead of it being permanent from the get-go? Have you considered why there is no permanent 5 day waiting period on all firearm purchases and the instant check became the standard instead?

Yeah, other places (SAF) tend to initiate a lot of the lawsuits but for the lobbying, it's the NRA above and beyond anyone.

Oh yeah, a lot of people got and get down on the NRA for being a Johnny come lately to the McDonald case and some even think the NRA horned in and came close to blowing the case entirely after the SAF started it. One day really read the McDonald findings, all of them, and look at who brought up what arguments (2d amendment, 14th amendment, etc) and what the finding for the defendant actually hinged on. Just to put it out there for consideration, it was the NRA's argument that the majority ruled on, NOT any one else's.

So, yeah, they do stuff. The SAF is excellent for lawsuits and I'll give them money every day of the week but the NRA is the one actually lobbying in the congress as well as the state houses, where the SAF is not. Two organizations that do different things.

Did I already not say this???
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Did I already not say this???
Yeah but I was giving specifics
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Old 10-14-2012, 03:56   #15
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This.

I never did like their attitude toward their members. I dumped them long ago.

NRA

No Real Action.

When other people do all the hard work and get results, the NRA is there just in time to take all the credit.

No thank you.
I do not deny that the NRA can do some glory-grabbing, but they are not worthless. The lobbying force of the NRA is solid.
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:15   #16
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I am a member and will continue to be one... but... this week the NRA sent me a Personal Defense Network DVD in the mail, unsolicited. They want me to pay for it or send it back. Not cool in my book. Don't send me stuff unsolicited.


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Old 10-13-2012, 12:21   #17
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I am a member and will continue to be one... but... this week the NRA sent me a Personal Defense Network DVD in the mail, unsolicited. They want me to pay for it or send it back. Not cool in my book. Don't send me stuff unsolicited.


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Just keep the DVD, legally you're not required to pay for or return unsolicited items that are sent to you.
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:32   #18
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I am proud to be an NRA member, every member makes up the NRA and we are very powerful
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Old 10-16-2012, 15:40   #19
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I am proud to be an NRA member, every member makes up the NRA and we are very powerful
Ditto that....! While we do NOTHING , they are our voice , so
the answer is quite obvious.........! NRA all the way......!
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For the OP, join or be a scab.
This kind of comment is one of the (many) reasons I don't want to be associated with them. "If you don't believe what I do, then you're worthless". Calling someone a scab because they don't want to join the same group as you? Really? Gotta love that warm, cordial feeling of open arms....


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While we do NOTHING,
And this is one of the other reasons. YOU may be doing nothing. I have my senators' and representatives' phone numbers locally and in Washington, and they know my position and my name. I do the same at the state level, and they know me, too.

It's a sad state to say that my voice doesn't carry the same weight, but I'm not "doing nothing." I don't need to pay someone else to make phone calls for me.

I appreciate the work they do, I really do. But to imply - or flat out say - I'm not as 'good' of a gun owner because I want to speak for myself is, quite frankly, insulting.
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:35   #21
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The NRA is the big dog on the block when it comes to gun rights. Whatever else they may do good, bad or indifferent, they are the reason why we still have our guns. Numbers speak loudly, and the NRA has the numbers. They get the attention of law makers (and everyone else).

Don't think that just because no new gun control laws have been passed under Obama that the left has given up. Politicians know that "gun control laws" are the poison apple (thanks to the NRA). New gun control laws won't look like gun control laws and they won't be called gun control. They will look like health care and environmental regulations.

So yeah, the NRA is the big stick. Every gun owner should belong.
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Just keep the DVD, legally you're not required to pay for or return unsolicited items that are sent to you.
That is correct. Nevertheless, I recommend that the person complaining watch the DVD first. It is Rob Pincus teaching his combat focus method. Interesting and informative. Then, just trash the DVD or send it back in the prepaid mailer.
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Old 10-16-2012, 06:57   #23
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Just keep the DVD, legally you're not required to pay for or return unsolicited items that are sent to you.
I did that with a book from The History Channel that was sent unsolicited. I still have the book and never paid them.

I never become a "life member" of anything. I always want to be able to stop sending money to an organization if they #### me off bad enough.

That said I believe my membership has lapsed. I need to get on that.
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Old 10-16-2012, 20:21   #24
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I am a member and will continue to be one... but... this week the NRA sent me a Personal Defense Network DVD in the mail, unsolicited. They want me to pay for it or send it back. Not cool in my book. Don't send me stuff unsolicited.


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Another sleezy NRA marketing campaign. Beeen doing the same crap for years.


They lost me over this kind of stuff.
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:40   #25
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NRA does keep our guns safe, see if Arkansas has a State gun rights group.
I'm in the NRA and the TSRA (Texas State Rifle Assoc)
that will keep you abreast on State and Local legislation.
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