Budget Reflex Sight on the Hurricane Zombie SBR

doc540 · 10-09-2012, 15:42

gonna try this Sightmark Digital unit instead of the Primary Arms microdot

both are about the same price

looking to get MrsDoc a .22 target pistol and mount the microdot for her

WoodenPlank · 10-09-2012, 16:58

So, you spend the money on an SBR, along with all the time and effort, and say it's for "hurricane/zombie" use....

then top it off with an optic that cost less than the tax stamp?

doc540 · 10-09-2012, 17:01

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Originally Posted by WoodenPlank

So, you spend the money on an SBR, along with all the time and effort, and say it's for "hurricane/zombie" use....

then top it off with an optic that cost less than the tax stamp?

1. no one knows what time or effort I've spent on the SBR

2. all four of my $100 optics have worked just fine for years

**Cole125** · 10-09-2012, 19:45

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Originally Posted by WoodenPlank

So, you spend the money on an SBR, along with all the time and effort, and say it's for "hurricane/zombie" use....

then top it off with an optic that cost less than the tax stamp?

My thoughts exactly.

OP just run irons until you save up for a Aimpoint Pro or Trijicon reflex.

Cheap optics will fail you when you need them the most.

doc540 · 10-09-2012, 20:01

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Originally Posted by Cole125

My thoughts exactly.

OP just run irons until you save up for a Aimpoint Pro or Trijicon reflex.

Cheap optics will fail you when you need them the most.

I've shot $100 optics for years without a single failure.

And with my eyesight I can't see irons.

But, I hear where you're coming from, brah.

jeepinbandit · 10-09-2012, 17:00

Nice rifle. the optic looks like it's mounted backwards though.

doc540 · 10-09-2012, 17:02

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Originally Posted by jeepinbandit

Nice rifle. the optic looks like it's mounted backwards though.

Thanks

It was made in southern Louisiana.

Snaps · 10-11-2012, 23:44

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Originally Posted by jeepinbandit

Nice rifle. the optic looks like it's mounted backwards though.

really does look like a backward eothinggy.

Good to see though, I'm looking for some cheaper sights for a couple low priced builds I've stuck together from parts. I normally stick with primary arms but I'll look into this one.

**NeverMore1701** · 10-09-2012, 17:03

Wow. Just... wow.

doc540 · 10-09-2012, 17:27

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Wow. Just... wow.

Thanks

I say the same thing every time I shoot it at 100yds.

Amazing little gun...LOUD little gun, but amazing.

gotta give a shout out to Primary Arms, too

their microdot is a great optic for the money

Trey83 · 10-09-2012, 17:31

I've never heard of that optic before but it looks like a nice little rifle otherwise. What are the specs on the build?

doc540 · 10-09-2012, 17:35

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Originally Posted by Trey83

I've never heard of that optic before but it looks like a nice little rifle otherwise. What are the specs on the build?

thanks, but it's nothing special

It's just a Sabre Defence "Pre-ATF Raid" model.

Had a friend who worked for MagPul so I got a handful of their stuff and mounted it up.

That's about it.

Local cop had two of them, and, you know the story: wife said "No more guns till you sell something".

So, I took it off his hands for not a lot of cash.

Trey83 · 10-09-2012, 18:06

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Originally Posted by doc540

thanks, but it's nothing special

It's just a Sabre Defence "Pre-ATF Raid" model.

Had a friend who worked for MagPul so I got a handful of their stuff and mounted it up.

That's about it.

Local cop had two of them, and, you know the story: wife said "No more guns till you sell something".

So, I took it off his hands for not a lot of cash.

Nice

MadMonkey · 10-09-2012, 20:08

Cheap AND expensive optics will both fail.

**NeverMore1701** · 10-09-2012, 20:09

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Originally Posted by MadMonkey

Cheap AND expensive optics will both fail.

No doubt.

Wonder which category fails more often?

doc540 · 10-09-2012, 20:13

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Originally Posted by NeverMore1701

No doubt.

Wonder which category fails more often?

Today's $100 optic ain't necessarily the same as cheap Chino digifails from ten years ago.

Again, I've used three or four PA red dots and have never had one fail.

Call me Mr. Lucky.

And I've actually gotten more than I've paid for because several weren't bought new.

MadMonkey · 10-10-2012, 05:04

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Originally Posted by NeverMore1701

No doubt.

Wonder which category fails more often?

Who knows? I haven't had any optics fail yet...

Higher price doesn't necessarily mean higher quality, though I don't have a problem buying higher-dollar optics (mainly for Aimpoint's battery life).

I'd like to see actual stats rather than anecdotal evidence. We can all give examples of all types of optics failing or lasting based on our own experience or internet hearsay.

mjkeat · 10-10-2012, 09:28

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Originally Posted by MadMonkey

Who knows? I haven't had any optics fail yet...

Higher price doesn't necessarily mean higher quality, though I don't have a problem buying higher-dollar optics (mainly for Aimpoint's battery life).

I'd like to see actual stats rather than anecdotal evidence. We can all give examples of all types of optics failing or lasting based on our own experience or internet hearsay.

It most certainly does. There's a point of diminishing return but there is a night in day difference in say an H1/T1 and the Primary Arms micro or that backwards EoTech clone. Even Marshall from PA will admit this. I will say I run 2 PA Micros on lower use rifles and like them.

You'll never see "actual stats" because there is a stark difference in end user. You won't see an 11B topping off his M4 w/ a Benchmark RDS. There's a reason. Just like the people who say there isn't a difference will likely never pass the threashold that seperates good and bad.

That's why it's nice there are varying levels of quality. I really didn't want to spend $600 on a H1 for my .22 AR. The PA gets me close enough to not alter muscle memory.

MadMonkey · 10-10-2012, 16:04

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Originally Posted by mjkeat

It most certainly does.

Really? Higher price = better regardless of materials used, workmanship?

fnfalman · 10-12-2012, 10:47

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Originally Posted by mjkeat

You won't see an 11B topping off his M4 w/ a Benchmark RDS. There's a reason. .

Yeah, it's called GI - General Issued. You get what you're issued.

doc540 · 10-09-2012, 20:10

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Originally Posted by MadMonkey

Cheap AND expensive optics will both fail.

I'm old and half blind, so that's why I just lay down suppressing fire.

WoodenPlank · 10-09-2012, 20:12

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Originally Posted by MadMonkey

Cheap AND expensive optics will both fail.

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Originally Posted by NeverMore1701

No doubt.

Wonder which category fails more often?

Exactly. You get what you pay for.

jeepinbandit · 10-10-2012, 06:44

Even the PA mini dots have a 1000 hour battery life. That's something like 40 days of constant on mode.

For most folks in the world that's plenty. I wouldn't mind having a real T-1 just for the battery life of the unit and will probably have one eventually but my PA mini dot gets the job done and has for thousands of rounds.

SigFTW · 10-10-2012, 09:07

Awesome AR!! I also use PA, great red dot and service and they are local.

What sold me on their product was when the rep slammed the red dot on the table many times and then remounted and it was still holding 0.

doc540 · 10-10-2012, 15:48

that's a fair and honest assessment

I'm not in the military and neither am I in law enforcement.

The SBR gets shot maybe once a month.

I keep the batteries fresh, and I get my money's worth.