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Old 10-06-2012, 13:40   #1
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Romney lies about pre-existing conditions in debate

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Pressed by TPM’s Evan McMorris-Santoro, Fehrnstrom said those who currently lack coverage because they have pre-existing conditions would need their states to implement their own laws — like Romney’s own Massachusetts health care law — that ban insurance company from discriminating against sick people.
This isn't the first time Romney's lied in front of a national audience and then had his advisers come out and correct him. Apparently he thinks undecided voters would be stupid enough to believe this BS... and he may be right. What a weasel.
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Old 10-06-2012, 13:43   #2
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Old 10-06-2012, 13:43   #3
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This isn't the first time Romney's lied in front of a national audience and then had his advisers come out and correct him. Apparently he thinks undecided voters would be stupid enough to believe this BS... and he may be right. What a weasel.
Oh, no! Flintlicker posted a DU talking point that says Romney lied. That does it for me. I'm voting for Obama. Four years of him just isnt' enough. I need eight.
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Old 10-06-2012, 13:52   #4
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So -- let me get this straight -- assuming that Romney lied in the debate, Obama was too stupid and uninformed to refute those lies?

Do we want someone that ignorant and incapable of extemporaneous thought to be dealing with some of the world's shrewdest and most devious national leaders???


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Old 10-06-2012, 13:53   #5
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Oh, no! Flintlicker posted a DU talking point that says Romney lied. That does it for me. I'm voting for Obama. Four years of him just isnt' enough. I need eight.
Oh no, Romney suggested something other than a Big Government solution to make everybody's lives just perfect. No I can't stand for that.

I want the Federal Government to step in and take over health care and run it as efficiently as they have Social Security, the war on drugs, and the war on terror. The only way we can count on that kind of effectiveness and efficiency is by trusting the Federal Government.
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Old 10-06-2012, 14:19   #6
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I want the Federal Government to step in and take over health care and run it as efficiently as they have Social Security, the war on drugs, and the war on terror. The only way we can count on that kind of effectiveness and efficiency is by trusting the Federal Government.
Yes...yes. And we need a President who will be more "flexible" after the election.
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Old 10-06-2012, 13:49   #7
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Ahh, what do you know, the cowards arrive to display their inability to address reality. Congrats boys.
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Old 10-06-2012, 13:52   #8
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Ahh, what do you know, the cowards arrive to display their inability to address reality. Congrats boys.


I notice you were away for a few days after your man crahsed and burned in the debate.
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Old 10-07-2012, 06:59   #9
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Ahh, what do you know, the cowards arrive to display their inability to address reality. Congrats boys.
I try and imagine Flintlicker or one of the other DUers as car salesman.

"If you don't buy this car, you are an effing moron. You are just too ignorant to realize you should buy this car. How stupid would you have to be to decide not to buy this car?

I drive a car just like this one. Why? Because, I am so much smarter than you. If you don't buy one just like it, you're an idiot.

What do you mean you're not buying the car? It's because you're ignorant, right? That' what I thought in the first place."


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Old 10-07-2012, 07:22   #10
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Wow...cold front has come through here with no rain. Highs in the 60s!
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Old 10-07-2012, 07:45   #11
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Wow.

Flintlicker sure has made 'friends' and influenced people ...

...But I'm sure he'll continue to get paid anyway ...

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Old 10-06-2012, 13:49   #12
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Hint: under "Romney’s plan to repeal Obamacare" health insurance laws on preexisting conditions would be just like they are now, which means if states want to ban preexisting condition exclusions, they would have to do so at the state level.

Do I say "so what" or point out that that is exactly what Romney supporters want/expect to happen?
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Old 10-06-2012, 13:56   #13
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Hint: under "Romney’s plan to repeal Obamacare" health insurance laws would be just liek they are now, which means if states want to ban preexisting condition exclusions, they would have to do so at the state level. Do I say "so what" or point out that that is exactly what Romney supporters want/expect to happen?
Romney said: "I do have a plan that deals with people with pre-existing conditions. That's part of my health care plan." He said that to appeal to undecideds, who are generally low information people, and they're gonna think, "great, Romney has pre-existing conditions covered." But it's a lie. His plan is to let the states decide. That's no plan, it's a cloud of BS that he hopes will fool people just long enough to get himself elected. It's just like his lie about lowering income taxes by 20% isn't going to crater the national debt. It's pure hokum.
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Old 10-06-2012, 13:58   #14
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The FUD is all yours, now ......

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Old 10-06-2012, 14:08   #15
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Romney said: "I do have a plan that deals with people with pre-existing conditions. That's part of my health care plan." He said that to appeal to undecideds, who are generally low information people, and they're gonna think, "great, Romney has pre-existing conditions covered." But it's a lie. His plan is to let the states decide. That's no plan, it's a cloud of BS that he hopes will fool people just long enough to get himself elected. It's just like his lie about lowering income taxes by 20% isn't going to crater the national debt. It's pure hokum.
So, in short: YOU say that Romney never said pre-existing conditions would be covered, but that he should have expected people to assume that.

Good one. You guys really caught him.

Another standard Flintlocker thread - ranting that a guy lied, just before admitting he didn't.
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Old 10-06-2012, 14:13   #16
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So, in short: YOU say that Romney never said pre-existing conditions would be covered, but that he should have expected people to assume that.

Good one. You guys really caught him.

Another standard Flintlocker thread - ranting that a guy lied, just before admitting he didn't.
It's a lie because its intent is to deceive.
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Old 10-06-2012, 14:20   #17
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It's a lie because its intent is to deceive.
Kind of like saying,

"If I don't get it fixed in three years then it's a one-term proposition"


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Old 10-07-2012, 08:26   #18
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It's a lie because its intent is to deceive.
After a 90-minute debate, with Obama stuttering and muttering his way through, having his arse handed to him for the entire period... THIS is the best you've got? A "presumed deception"?

Please tell me you have something more substantive. Please tell me you have something that doesn't require a predisposition to want to hate Romney in order to find a small victory for your guy. Please tell me this isn't the only point you're hanging your hat on to feel better about the beatdown Obama received.
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What a weasel.
Weasel presidents, I can handle. Marxist presidents, not so much. So...I guess "O" isn't the guy I should vote for.
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Flinty has the proverbial 'chance of a snowball in hell' of deflecting this crowd. ....

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