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Old 10-06-2012, 11:45   #1
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Rate the top 4 semi-custom builds

We've kicked this around for years, but in light of price increases and the current economic situation, how would you rate the top 4 mfrs. of semi-custom 1911's?

Guncrafter

Wilson Combat

Springfield Custom

NightHawk
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Old 10-06-2012, 12:12   #2
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In no particular order...

Springfield Custom

Wilson

Guncrafter

Les Baer
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Old 10-08-2012, 09:54   #3
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In no particular order...

Springfield Custom

Wilson

Guncrafter

Les Baer
Out of curiosity, why would you not place Ed Brown in your top 4?
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Old 10-06-2012, 12:17   #4
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I would rate the top 4 IMO and in no certain order as:
Guncrafter
Wilson
Brown
SACS

Tie for fifth:
Baer
Nighthawk

Although I would classify all 6 of the above mentioned to all be in the same class, with all worthy of owning. I own some of each.

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Old 10-07-2012, 06:00   #5
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I would rate the top 4 IMO and in no certain order as:
Guncrafter
Wilson
Brown
SACS

Tie for fifth:
Baer
Nighthawk

Although I would classify all 6 of the above mentioned to all be in the same class, with all worthy of owning. I own some of each.

I would agree with this,.....assuming price was not a factor.
I have owned a Brown, Wilson, Baer, & Guncrafter.
The GI is by far the best semi-custom when pricing is a consideration.
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Old 10-07-2012, 07:49   #6
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The GI is by far the best semi-custom when pricing is a consideration.
I agree. They cost a little more than most Baer's, but you get your money's worth. Plus, Alex is hands on.

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Old 10-07-2012, 10:14   #7
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Never cared for the way Les cares to finish his 1911s.
Bluing is nice, but prep work is sub-par........IMO
They definately don't put finish as their biggest priority, but more important for me is that the build quality is there, and they're hundreds of dollars cheaper than everyone else on the list.


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I have owned a Brown, Wilson, Baer, & Guncrafter.
The GI is by far the best semi-custom when pricing is a consideration.
I need to get my hands on a No Name.
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You do have a very valid point.
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Old 10-08-2012, 00:01   #12
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I would rate the top 4 IMO and in no certain order as:
Guncrafter
Wilson
Brown
SACS

Tie for fifth:
Baer
Nighthawk

Although I would classify all 6 of the above mentioned to all be in the same class, with all worthy of owning. I own some of each.

I agree!!!
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Old 10-08-2012, 03:51   #13
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Simply put, when I put out $2000 for a 1911 such as my Les Baer I would like my bushing to perform similar to other 1911's costing hundreds less to hundreds more. I'm not the only one to experience this. The same goes for the slide release, Les will tell you it's normal and that you need to purchase one of his Pachmayer widgets to insert the slide release without damaging the frame. I have 1911's ranging from $550 to $3500 and they do not exhibit this. Also, I've seen finishes much better than LB on 1911's that cost less.
I think LB is one of the best semi custom 1911's for the price as far as performance for the dollar goes, but I don't appreciate the insanely tight bushings and I shouldn't have to eff with the slide release for a $2000 1911.
Perhaps learning an alternative disassembly/assembly method would help....no "widgets" required

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All great shops for sure, when economics are figured in, Baers are hard to beat IMO.
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All great shops for sure, when economics are figured in, Baers are hard to beat IMO.
True words Cody

None mentioned so far are built like a Baer...none
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True words Cody

None mentioned so far are built like a Baer...none
I feel Guncrafter and Springfield Custom build them tight like Baer does.

I hear what you're saying though.
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Old 10-07-2012, 06:50   #17
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None mentioned so far are built like a Baer...none
I agree. My list, in order, would be:

1. Les Baer
2. SACS
3. Wilson Combat
4. Ed Brown

I've no doubt Guncrafter would be on there (displacing EB - don't know where GC would rank) if I ever get around to owning one.
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I agree. My list, in order, would be:

1. Les Baer
2. SACS
3. Wilson Combat
4. Ed Brown

I've no doubt Guncrafter would be on there (displacing EB - don't know where GC would rank) if I ever get around to owning one.
I agree, Ed Brown is one of the elite.
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All great shops for sure, when economics are figured in, Baers are hard to beat IMO.
Never cared for the way Les cares to finish his 1911s.
Bluing is nice, but prep work is sub-par........IMO
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Never cared for the way Les cares to finish his 1911s.
Bluing is nice, but prep work is sub-par........IMO
I agree. My experience is LB bluing is just adequate. My PII after 2000 rounds still requires a bushing wrench and the slide release still a PITA.
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