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Old 10-04-2012, 12:13   #1
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What would you like to see in a new HK pistol?

Who knows how many years it will be before HK releases a new design but what would you like to see?

I'd like a P2000 sized frame with a slightly longer barrel, the P30 grip design, the removal of the right slide lock lever, and a smaller left side lever. Also, non-sloping rear sights (though that is easy to fix with aftermarket).
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Old 10-04-2012, 12:17   #2
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Striker fired

A grip that is more like the PPQ or P30

A trigger like the PPQ

Lose that funky mag release and give us a damn button like everything else.

A price closer to Glock and others...for those of us that have a mortgage and kids to feed and cannot blow every dime we make on guns.

...do that and they'll rule the polymer pistol world.
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Old 10-04-2012, 12:23   #3
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A price closer to Glock and others...for those of us that have a mortgage and kids to feed and cannot blow every dime we make on guns.
^^^ This.
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Old 10-05-2012, 02:31   #4
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^^^ This.
And I'm sure you won't mind the Glock quality (or the lack there of) that will come with the lower price?

They cost more because they are made better. Detractors can say what they want otherwise but it doesn't make it any less true.

Don't like the price? Then spend your money elsewhere since these gun's aren't for you.

There are those of us that will gladly shell over the extra $$ for quality.
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Old 10-12-2012, 23:12   #5
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And I'm sure you won't mind the Glock quality (or the lack there of) that will come with the lower price?

They cost more because they are made better. Detractors can say what they want otherwise but it doesn't make it any less true.

Don't like the price? Then spend your money elsewhere since these gun's aren't for you.

There are those of us that will gladly shell over the extra $$ for quality.
That is a complete lie. The polymer frame of the USP45 was much more easily scratched and damaged than any Glock I've ever had. How is that better quality?

Frankly I'd just like to see HK stop overcharging for their guns. The fanboy mentality of getting more for your dollar is just that. Fanboy mentality. Stop with the poor design, make them striker fired, stop using poor quality plastics, and stop treating the civilian market in the US like an afterthought.
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:00   #6
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That is a complete lie. The polymer frame of the USP45 was much more easily scratched and damaged than any Glock I've ever had. How is that better quality?

Frankly I'd just like to see HK stop overcharging for their guns. The fanboy mentality of getting more for your dollar is just that. Fanboy mentality. Stop with the poor design, make them striker fired, stop using poor quality plastics, and stop treating the civilian market in the US like an afterthought.
If you take apart both guns and look at the parts, the hk's are higher quality. The glocks seem to be very basic and inexpensive. But that's the way they were designed to be. However, there is something to be said about them in that they JUST WORK. There is really not many things to go wrong on them. They don't have to have many things taking place for them to go bang. I have glocks and do like them. I just prefer hk.
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Old 10-13-2012, 08:25   #7
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And I'm sure you won't mind the Glock quality (or the lack there of) that will come with the lower price?

They cost more because they are made better. Detractors can say what they want otherwise but it doesn't make it any less true.

Don't like the price? Then spend your money elsewhere since these gun's aren't for you.

There are those of us that will gladly shell over the extra $$ for quality.
this ^^^^^
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Old 10-20-2012, 15:36   #8
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And I'm sure you won't mind the Glock quality (or the lack there of) that will come with the lower price?

They cost more because they are made better. Detractors can say what they want otherwise but it doesn't make it any less true.

Don't like the price? Then spend your money elsewhere since these gun's aren't for you.

There are those of us that will gladly shell over the extra $$ for quality.
I will gladly pay 900 dollars for an HK 45 anyday as they are worth every penny. I would never want HK to scimp on quality just so its avilable to everyone like a glock
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Old 10-21-2012, 22:32   #9
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I will gladly pay 900 dollars for an HK 45 anyday as they are worth every penny. I would never want HK to scimp on quality just so its avilable to everyone like a glock
I agree when it come's mine a HK win's everytime!!
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Old 10-26-2012, 07:45   #10
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I will gladly pay 900 dollars for an HK 45 anyday as they are worth every penny. I would never want HK to scimp on quality just so its avilable to everyone like a glock


Absolutely. The HK45 is probably the best hangun out there of its kind in my opinion. Definately the best .45 handgun. I gladly paid $900 for mine. Id do it again.
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Old 10-21-2012, 05:31   #11
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There are those of us that will gladly shell over the extra $$ for quality.
This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I bought an HK.45CT and a LW Springfield Compact Gunsite Service Pistol this year. $2300 for 2 pistols really put a dent in the funds, but you have to jump at good opportunities when they arise.
Total this year, I've spent $5500 on guns and a suppressor. The only thing lacking in my collection is an integrally suppressed 10/22.
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Old 10-05-2012, 02:33   #12
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...do that and they'll rule the polymer pistol world.

And they will come down to the level of crap like all the rest of them. (At least for once a Glock would then actually be equal to a HK!)

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Old 10-04-2012, 13:49   #13
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An HK version of the G19, striker-fired, simple, with no extraneous parts, no larger and no wider than a G19, and with a barrel length of 106mm.
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Old 10-04-2012, 13:54   #14
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a HK 1911
the P30 and HK45 are excellent,
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Old 10-04-2012, 16:26   #15
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I find my P2K 357 LEM V1 light to be something
Glock guys might appreciate.

The LEM V1 Light has a very light pre-travel,
followed by a predictable wall and a crisp clean ~5 lbs break.
Very much like my G27 with a OEM "-" connector.
The LEM gives the same pull every time (if the primer fires).
It's very close to a G19 in size.
And with an extended mag release,
I have actually warmed up to the Euro mag release design.

They are worth a look.
And the prices seem to be coming down due to the newer P30.
I picked mine up for $649.
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Old 10-05-2012, 02:32   #16
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Striker fired and HK don't belong in the same sentence.

Besides, striker fired guns are for people that can't shoot.

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Old 10-13-2012, 17:14   #17
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Striker fired and HK don't belong in the same sentence.

Besides, striker fired guns are for people that can't shoot.
The P7 series pistols are all striker fired.

I'd be happy if HK just started making those again. Maybe even make a model with a polymer frame.

In my opinion, there are too many manufacturers already making decent striker fired pistols and excellent 1911's for HK to really remain competitive by producing those products.
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Old 10-16-2012, 17:11   #18
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The P7 series pistols are all striker fired.

I'd be happy if HK just started making those again. Maybe even make a model with a polymer frame.

In my opinion, there are too many manufacturers already making decent striker fired pistols and excellent 1911's for HK to really remain competitive by producing those products.
I agree about the P7. I carried one as an armored car driver back in the 1980's. It was one of the best pointing pistols I ever had.
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Old 10-27-2012, 07:07   #19
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Striker fired and HK don't belong in the same sentence.

Besides, striker fired guns are for people that can't shoot.

Apparently never fired a p7?
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Old 10-27-2012, 07:22   #20
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Striker fired and HK don't belong in the same sentence.

Besides, striker fired guns are for people that can't shoot.

That's why people are winning in competition with H&K all over the world...I mean, if anybody actually was...that would be why...instead of winning with guns that cost half the price by do a lot better on accuracy, speed and reliability.
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That's why people are winning in competition with H&K all over the world...I mean, if anybody actually was...that would be why...instead of winning with guns that cost half the price by do a lot better on accuracy, speed and reliability.

Although I believe that the statement you quoted to be silly, your arguement is a little off. HK has a far different business model than Glock and S&W. HK makes expensive, high quality guns and focuses on military contracts. Glock and S&W makes excellent, but lower costing striker fired designs and they want them in every holster possible. Sponsering alot of pro shooters helps them. I know HK has a shooting team also, but their emphasis is clearly not on it. They don't advertise a whole lot compared to Glock or S&W either. Plus, in pro shooting, its the indian not the arrow. There are people out there smoking the competition with Taurus for God sakes.
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Striker fired and HK don't belong in the same sentence.

Besides, striker fired guns are for people that can't shoot.

uhhhhhh......



dont you own a P7?!? notice the lack of hammer...

if you're are going to be a over zealous fanboy at least be a knowledgeable one.

and please, besides look pretty, (which, for a combat weapon, means nothing) enlighten me on what your HK can do that Glocks cant for half the price.

I happen to like HK, but im not delusional enough to think that Glocks are crap. a talented shooter can be just as accurate with a glock, and most are just as reliable. it wont ruin my day if i drop a glock. an HK on the other hand....

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and please, besides look pretty, (which, for a combat weapon, means nothing) enlighten me on what your HK can do that Glocks cant for half the price.

I happen to like HK, but im not delusional enough to think that Glocks are crap. a talented shooter can be just as accurate with a glock, and most are just as reliable. it wont ruin my day if i drop a glock. an HK on the other hand....
Pass the DHS torque test?

I actually shoot a Glock better than an HK, but the HK is a better built gun IMO.
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uhhhhhh......

dont you own a P7?!? notice the lack of hammer...
She HAD a P7.........for a little while.....
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Old 10-05-2012, 02:34   #25
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Who knows how many years it will be before HK releases a new design but what would you like to see?

I'd like a P2000 sized frame with a slightly longer barrel, the P30 grip design, the removal of the right slide lock lever, and a smaller left side lever. Also, non-sloping rear sights (though that is easy to fix with aftermarket).
I think this is the only good post in this thread besides my own!

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