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Old 09-30-2012, 21:55   #1
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Thinking of carrying and have a concern

So I just received my CCW permit and I'm eager to carry and take defensive pistol classes. Mine and my wife's concern is our 2 year old son. He's very curious and if he feels things in my pocket he's digging for it. The thing is that he's the reason I feel I want to carry. I never want to be in a position to where I can't protect my family. I've started to see the world in a different light due recent events and my love for my family. I realize that there are bad people in the world and the can surface any where at any time. I want to carry concealed, but worry about my son being curious and is too young to understand. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance!

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Old 09-30-2012, 22:00   #2
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Old 09-30-2012, 22:01   #3
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Just to clarify I have a 23 and I want to carry IWB.
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Just to clarify I have a 23 and I want to carry IWB.
Carry Cond III, no round in the chamber. The child is not strong enough to rack the slide, but you are.
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Old 10-03-2012, 12:04   #5
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Carry Cond III, no round in the chamber. The child is not strong enough to rack the slide, but you are.
^^ This ^^

I carry often when I am at home with the kids, but in C3.

Safer all around.
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Old 10-05-2012, 11:16   #6
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don't let him fish around in your pockets. If you're worried about weapon retention with a two year old, you have a REAL weapon retention problem.
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Old 10-05-2012, 19:12   #7
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If you can protect your child from falling down stairs or running with scissors, think you can manage to keep him from grabbing at your sidearm. The first 2 dangers are probably harder to protect against.
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Old 10-01-2012, 14:42   #8
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Just to clarify I have a 23 and I want to carry IWB.
And your 2 year old can draw your gun from the holster? Seems doubtful. If you can't keep your gun concealed and holstered around a 2-year-old, what chance do you have of retaining it around the average teenage gangsta that wants a new gun?
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Old 10-01-2012, 14:52   #9
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And your 2 year old can draw your gun from the holster? Seems doubtful. If you can't keep your gun concealed and holstered around a 2-year-old, what chance do you have of retaining it around the average teenage gangsta that wants a new gun?
Not worried about my son drawing the piece. Just worried about the constant inquisitiveness and looking to see if other had similar experiences.

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Old 10-03-2012, 14:49   #10
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Not worried about my son drawing the piece. Just worried about the constant inquisitiveness and looking to see if other had similar experiences.
I don't think I understand - if he can't draw it from the holster, how is it going to hurt him?
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Old 10-03-2012, 15:22   #11
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I don't think I understand - if he can't draw it from the holster, how is it going to hurt him?
My son is very inquisitive. If he felt my firearm under myclothing he would go fishing for it. Not so much worried about him drawing it. More concerned about the constant trying tomess with it. He already goes for keys, chapstick, knife, coins, etc. Whatever he can feel and not see, he goes for. It get's old some days. With a firearm, I could see it getting to the point that I wouldn't want to carry just to not deal with him. I hope to be buying aholster soon and testing the waters. My Gun Vault came yesterday so I need toget it mounted this weekend.
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Not worried about my son drawing the piece. Just worried about the constant inquisitiveness and looking to see if other had similar experiences.
If your son was constantly groping your crotch and your wife's crotch and chest...would you simply let him?

I hope not...

Correct his actions, don't just let him do it. While you are dismissing his actions as inquisitiveness, his actions are also rude and even potentially dangerous. Just stop letting him do it...period.
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Old 10-03-2012, 10:25   #13
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Just to clarify I have a 23 and I want to carry IWB.
Sounds like the method of carry you want will make this a non issue. Just make sure you spend the money on a good holster.
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Old 09-30-2012, 22:06   #14
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If you don't pocket carry sounds like you'll be fine. Get a crossbreed and be done with it


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Exactly, a good quality holster will solve that problem for you. However I especially like your idea of taking shooting and carrying classes. If you take classes from a good well known qualified individual or organization the knowledge you learn will go a long way to giving you the confidence to carry and protect your family.

Getting in a habit of putting away your handgun in a handgun safe at home will keep the little one from ever accessing it and givers you piece of mind.

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A good holster will protect the trigger. Remember "A good holster".

CB is excellent, I have worn them for years.

There are many good holster manufacturers out there. Check the members for recommendations, you will not be disappointed.

Always wear your pistol, keep it in your possession. The biggest risk with children is when you do not have actual possession of your pistol. If you are carrying it, the kid is not playing with it. You are always responsible for it.

Welcome, and thanks for taking your self protection seriously.
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Old 09-30-2012, 22:19   #17
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So I just received my CCW permit and I'm eager to carry and take defensive pistol classes. Mine and my wife's concern is our 2 year old son. He's very curious and if he feels things in my pocket he's digging for it. The thing is that he's the reason I feel I want to carry. I never want to be in a position to where I can't protect my family. I've started to see the world in a different light due recent events and my love for my family. I realize that there are bad people in the world and the can surface any where at any time. I want to carry concealed, but worry about my son being curious and is too young to understand. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance!
If I'm reading this right it sounds like you might be asking how to carry and keep a firearm without your son geting a hold of it.

I guess one consideration I'd have is to put it in an electronic lock box at home when you walk in the door. That way it would be locked up, yet you and your wife could get to it if need be.

You mentioned that your son likes to fish around in your pockets. I certainly wouldn't pocket carry without a holster. If you carry IWB or OWB carry the pistol on one side and your son on the other if need be. Maybe, even with a thumb snap retention holster.

Your dilemma reminds me of one of the lines Gallagher the comedian use to use. I'm paraphrasing him, but it went something like, "When your child is born you count all their fingers and toes in hopes they have all of them. When they turn two you wish they were born without arms or legs."

Good luck!

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Old 09-30-2012, 22:35   #18
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carry in a holster that has retention. Put your gun in a lockable nightstand drawer when you are home. Secure any guns that aren't you on you in a gunsafe when out of the house. That way your gun is still accesible for HD when you are home and out of reach of your child.

No worries.
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Old 09-30-2012, 23:11   #19
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Thanks for the welcoming. I'm excited to be here.

CE Escapee - your Gallagher quote is right on! Gave me a good laugh!

I'll check out the CB holsters. I've always been aware of and have owned firearms since I was a teen. 37 now. Just new to the firearm with a child and most of the safety items are common sense to me. The gun safe is on its way. I ordered a Gun Vault last week. Have any of you guys needed to make any certain adjustments other than locking the firearm up when at home or dealt with carrying and having little kids? I guess I'm looking for learning experiences or changes in carrying habits to adjust to the new lifestyle.
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Old 09-30-2012, 23:46   #20
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I have carried everyday since my 7yr old was in the womb.

I am also a full time dad, so lots of baby-daddy time.

I have pocket carried my Kahr MK9 lots of times with my AHolster pocket holster.

Excellent Kydex pocket carry.

I also use a CBST for my G26, K9 and MK9. Each has it's place in the rotation.

My kid is also curious about stuff. At 2 she would complaint about my holster digging into her side, I just made a habit of keeping her on my non-gun side. Pocket carry was an issue for a bit, (she loves to sit in my lap) so I went to IWB 90%.

I have three safes in the house. Guns are always locked up or on me. She used to be really curious about what was in the safe, and why I put "stuff" in my belt every morning. I let her look at a non-functioning airsoft M9. Excellent reproduction gun. I explained firearm safety and to never touch a gun unless I am the one showing it to her. Also if she sees a gun tell me and never touch it, unless I say so. (Mom is not gun proficient, so it is my call) She shoots archery now, BB guns are ready to go if she gets tired of the bow. Very safe, always.

When she was really little she would try and look in my pocket or at my belt/IWB rig. A sharp NO did not suffice, so a quick flick on the forehead and a sharper NO did. She asks now before she reaches for anything in my pockets.
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