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Old 09-19-2012, 14:30   #1
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Is the Caracal C better than the Glock 19?

...According to this guy it is.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...-vs-caracal-c/

Trying to sell my Steyr to get an F model.
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Old 09-19-2012, 15:34   #2
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...According to this guy it is.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...-vs-caracal-c/

Trying to sell my Steyr to get an F model.

I'm not ready to call it that just yet. I still give the nod to my G19, but I can't deny, with a good night sight. It just might replace it for some CCW use. The reason being the trigger feels soooooo much crisper and lighter. Since sending about 300 rounds down range between my Caracal C and F I now am probably not going to get a Glock 17 and start carrying the Caracal C more over the G19 in a couple of months.

Aftermarket support is all that the Caracal lacks, holster wise. It fits all the existing Glock hosters as well....
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Old 09-19-2012, 15:49   #3
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...According to this guy it is.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...-vs-caracal-c/

Trying to sell my Steyr to get an F model.
I have both; the Caracal has a better trigger and less felt recoil. To me, handling characteristic's are different; the Caracal points up and the Glock is more of a down angle in my hand due to the bore axis.

At 7 or 10 yards, I shoot a better group with the Caracal. I only have around 500 rounds through it but it's been flawless. If it's as reliable as the Glock over time, then it's a winner at $400.
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Old 09-19-2012, 16:02   #4
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I can't stand the way that guy writes...

Any way I am eager to try out a Caracal. If it shoots better then I will switch over. After about 2k rounds through 3 different 9mm Glocks (19,26, then 17) I still shoot high and left. I'm thinking there might be a better polymer option out there for me. I can shoot one ragged hole all day with a 1911 but that is to be expected with the best trigger out there.
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Old 09-19-2012, 16:05   #5
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I haven't shot or seen one but it's very premature to say what I think (I may be wrong) is a relatively new or certainly a relatively uncommon gun can be compared to the Glock which has hundreds of thousands, perhaps a few millions in service throughout the world.

Try back in a decade and see how it fares. Don
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Old 09-19-2012, 18:55   #6
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Try back in a decade and see how it fares. Don
Dont need to. It was designed by a weapons designer for Glock and the same guy who made the Steyr pistols that are renowned for being excellent guns.

They are regarded as wonderful pistols by everyone who's tried them.

And beyond that, the German govt put them through the harshest tests that pistols are put through and its NATO approved.

All the nay sayers are just haters imo.

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Before being put into production the Caracal pistol was evaluated through independent tests. These tests were carried out by the Federal German Armed Forces Technical Center for Weapons and Ammunition (WTD 91) in Meppen, Germany[5] which included metallurgic and composite analysis, functional fitness-for-purpose and quality evaluation, endurance firing, environmental exposure, safety and accuracy tests. A certificate was issued by the Bundeswehr Technical Center for Weapons and Ammunition (WTD 91) in May 2006 after the pistol successfully complied with the NATO D14 standard, the German Federal Police Standard and the German Federal Armed Forces Technical Purchasing requirements. These tests are the most stringent test protocols ever devised for a service firearm.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracal_pistol

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Old 09-20-2012, 10:12   #7
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I can't stand the way that guy writes...

Any way I am eager to try out a Caracal. If it shoots better then I will switch over. After about 2k rounds through 3 different 9mm Glocks (19,26, then 17) I still shoot high and left. I'm thinking there might be a better polymer option out there for me. I can shoot one ragged hole all day with a 1911 but that is to be expected with the best trigger out there.
It's you. I can do that with a good 1911 or a Glock.

What exactly is the country of origin for the Caracal? I mean is it a terrorist friendly country?
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:43   #8
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It's you. I can do that with a good 1911 or a Glock.

What exactly is the country of origin for the Caracal? I mean is it a terrorist friendly country?

Caracal's are produced in Germany and the UAE. Imported by Caracal USA (some have been imported by Waffen Werks and Davidsons) in Alabama.
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Old 09-20-2012, 12:39   #9
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Caracal's are produced in Germany and the UAE. Imported by Caracal USA (some have been imported by Waffen Werks and Davidsons) in Alabama.

Nah Plouff.... Vaffen (W's are V's in German) Verks is in K'ville, TN

SAI (Stey'rs Importer) here in Trussville, AL is the newest importer... Both of my pistols came from Bud's and were of the Waffen Werks Variety...
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just don't like supporting a Arab country (UAE), rather support a US co. JMO
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Old 09-19-2012, 16:43   #11
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just don't like supporting a Arab country (UAE), rather support a US co. JMO
no offense sir, but who do you think you are supporting when you fill up with gasoline????
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Old 09-19-2012, 18:22   #12
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no offense sir, but who do you think you are supporting when you fill up with gasoline????
it is tough to do all usa..I drive electric..american car...can't do it all..just what I can...usa all the way
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no offense sir, but who do you think you are supporting when you fill up with gasoline????
That comment doesn't cut it. We aren't self sufficient in gas production, we either buy from without or do without and the latter isn't an option. There are US and friendly countries who produce fine weapons and even then I prefer to buy US when possible. Don
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That comment doesn't cut it. We aren't self sufficient in gas production, we either buy from without or do without and the latter isn't an option. There are US and friendly countries who produce fine weapons and even then I prefer to buy US when possible. Don
don---way to go...
as you see from my screen name, I'm a SW'er...who was a first responder on 9/11....working with area residents, those who made it out of the towers...and police/fire personnel who had difficulties during(yea-not all could handle it) and after.....guess I'm affected too....but for me and my house, when I can I buy USA..and support countries that support us...the only middle east country I'd buy from is Israel...nice guns too
given the current issues....that's the way i roll....you make your own decisions
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Old 09-20-2012, 12:50   #15
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no offense sir, but who do you think you are supporting when you fill up with gasoline????
USA
Canada
Mexico

Arab nations are way down the list on US imports.

Anyway, I handled a Caracal at the last gun show. While not bad feeling it was more than a G19 and I don't know what spare mags cost.
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USA
Canada
Mexico

Arab nations are way down the list on US imports.

Anyway, I handled a Caracal at the last gun show. While not bad feeling it was more than a G19 and I don't know what spare mags cost.
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Old 09-19-2012, 17:19   #17
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just don't like supporting a Arab country (UAE), rather support a US co. JMO
Hate to break it to you but Glock is an Austrian company with an American subsidiary.
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Old 09-19-2012, 17:31   #18
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Hate to break it to you but Glock is an Austrian company with an American subsidiary.
Exactly
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I get this question a lot because I frequently sing the praises of the Caracal C and F

Here's the best way I can describe it......

I've shot Glocks longer than any other gun, I likely shoot them better than most guns for that very reason.

I shot the Caracal F (and C when I got it) better than any other gun I had never shot before. It's like a 1911 in that aspect---it makes average shooters good shooters.

If I had never fired a Glock or Caracal and was handed both for a range session my guess is I would say the Caracal is a superior firearm. They're exceptional guns at the $400 price point and they'd still be great guns at a $700 price point.

All that said, my HD guns are Glocks. I still shoot them better and have more confidence in them. That may change with more time and more rounds.
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Old 09-19-2012, 18:08   #20
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They're exceptional guns at the $400 price point and they'd still be great guns at a $700 price point.
Dont say that too loud! Before you know it these guns will sport a familiar logo with two cannons and the text "imported from the UAE", with a $749.99 MSRP.
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