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Old 06-15-2012, 15:54   #1
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Paul RNC delegates suing the Republican Party

This has been brewing for a while but has started to be publicized so Ill just leave this here. The gnashing of teeth and howls will be deafening. We shall see what the Federal Courts say about "bound" delegates once again.

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SANTA ANA, Calif. (CN) - In a revolt against Romney, at least 40 more national convention delegates asked to join 123 previous plaintiffs in a lawsuit against the Republican National Committee, and their attorney said hundreds more may soon follow suit.
The first 123 delegates, all from the 9th Circuit, sued the RNC, its Chairman Rince Priebus, and every state party chairman in the 9th Circuit in Federal Court on Monday, demanding the right to vote for the candidate of their choice on every ballot at the Republican National Convention, including the first.
The delegates claim the party violated federal law by forcing them to sign loyalty affidavits, under threat of perjury, to vote for Mitt Romney, though he is not yet the official nominee.
They also claimed that state party chairmen are fixing elections at state conventions and changing ballots so that all votes cast count for Romney.
"When nominating someone for a federal office, all delegates must be free to vote their conscience," Richard Gilbert, of Gilbert & Marlowe, attorney for the delegates, told Courthouse News in an interview Thursday.
"They don't want to be bound to any candidate, or even be forced to vote for the nominee," Gilbert said. "To have a real convention, the delegates must have free will so that when they meet, they can persuade each other and then decide who to vote for."
Gilbert said that the public is unaware that the party is rigging elections and committing voting fraud. But he said he has more than 100 signed affidavits from delegates to support these allegations.
"Some campaigns act like organized crime syndicates - and I mean organized crime, no doubt about it," Gilbert said.

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Ive been telling you folks that this isn't over.
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Old 06-15-2012, 16:12   #2
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Go home Ron Paul and leave the republican party alone.

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Old 06-15-2012, 20:29   #3
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This^^^Agree...!

Emotional...hurt do-nothing Paul-bots would make great cabana-boys for dictators...
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Old 06-16-2012, 22:12   #4
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Go home Ron Paul and leave the republican party alone.

Ironically, I don't think Paul has any say in any of this anymore. I think his worshippers are moving this thing along with or without his consent.
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Old 06-15-2012, 16:14   #5
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Time for Republicans to start boycotting all businesses publicly supporting Ron Paul.
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Old 06-16-2012, 22:23   #6
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Time for Republicans to start boycotting all businesses publicly supporting Ron Paul.
Except for Big Shrimp, this is all I could find:




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Old 06-17-2012, 06:48   #7
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Old 06-17-2012, 16:11   #8
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Except for Big Shrimp, this is all I could find:




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I actually meant local businesses in particular, the ones with pamphlets and/or banners prominently displayed.

I had already been debating whether to replace one local business with a big evil corporate chain store. This sealed my decision. I had no problem with him when he was a hard left liberal, but now this Cheney-hating, anti-war hippie is trying to convince me that I'm a faux conservative? No, not gonna happen. I also just replaced a potential real estate agent with a large RP banner in front of his office with another agent I found at my church. I don't want some crazy pothead trying to sell my house...I'm sure he's alienated/pissed off all of the non-RP agents here in town by now.
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Typical, whiny liberal response by the Paulatarians......Of course, it's a frivolous suit, and will no doubt be thrown out as such.
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AHAHAHAHA
Oh yes this is going to draw people to the Ron Paul cause by the tens of thousands. Voters are going to be fighting to get a position in line to put him and his supporters in the White House now. This will turn the tide alright
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If y'all want to form the Ronulan Party and do things your way, have at it. Write up your own Declaration of Independence and display that decent respect to the opinions of mankind. But acting like petulant loons doesn't win you anything.

Somehow, I'd not be surprised if they judge-shopped for someone who'd be happy to lay some hurt on the Republican Party. The goals are clearly parallel.
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If y'all want to form the Ronulan Party and do things your way, have at it. Write up your own Declaration of Independence and display that decent respect to the opinions of mankind. But acting like petulant loons doesn't win you anything.

Somehow, I'd not be surprised if they judge-shopped for someone who'd be happy to lay some hurt on the Republican Party. The goals are clearly parallel.
Judge shopped? Cases are referred to judges by the Clerk based on a case rotation and assigned by a computer. You guys are starting to become unglued. I have told yall before that there are plenty of Paul supporters that have no trouble burning the party to the ground over what has taken place this election.
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I have told yall before that there are plenty of Paul supporters that have no trouble burning the party to the ground over what has taken place this election.
Oh we believe you.
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Judge shopped? Cases are referred to judges by the Clerk based on a case rotation and assigned by a computer. You guys are starting to become unglued. I have told yall before that there are plenty of Paul supporters that have no trouble burning the party to the ground over what has taken place this election.


You know that your babble about Paulites "burning the party to the ground", makes my "tinfoil" theory all that more plausible.

"If we don't get our way, we will wreck the party and Obama will win".
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Judge shopped? Cases are referred to judges by the Clerk based on a case rotation and assigned by a computer.
Which is why they brought suit in Santa Ana, CA and the 9th Circuit....it was their turn in the rotation?

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You guys are starting to become unglued. I have told yall before that there are plenty of Paul supporters that have no trouble burning the party to the ground over what has taken place this election.
Of course there are. I'm sure they're heroes to you, but you'll excuse me if I hold y'all in lower regard.
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Which is why they brought suit in Santa Ana, CA and the 9th Circuit....it was their turn in the rotation?
That's where the law office of the firm bringing the case is.

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Of course there are. I'm sure they're heroes to you, but you'll excuse me if I hold y'all in lower regard.
Doesn't matter. You didn't hold us in high regard in the first place, so no biggie. I have the feeling that this lawsuit is why the official RP2012 campaign folded down so quickly. Once they got wind of it they all ran for the exits.

Im not going to put myself in a position where I have to defend this lawsuit to all of you. I'm not even sure it's a good move. Just reporting the facts and justifications behind it. The media hasn't covered any of the fraud and you all don't seem to care that the party is rife with corruption or are unaware of what's going on behind the scenes. It is what it is and the courts will decide for sure whether there are bound delegates or not. This could very well end up being a landmark case in American politics, particularly if the next step is taken in the form of RICO allegations.
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Judge shopped? Cases are referred to judges by the Clerk based on a case rotation and assigned by a computer.


Someone is watching a little too much Law & Order.

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You guys are starting to become unglued. I have told yall before that there are plenty of Paul supporters that have no trouble burning the party to the ground over what has taken place this election.
I am beginning to think has always been the goal. Too bad you're outnumbered 10:1
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Somehow, I'd not be surprised if they judge-shopped for someone who'd be happy to lay some hurt on the Republican Party. The goals are clearly parallel.
Yeah, I'm sure it's just a coincidence they chose the 9th circuit to file their lawsuit in.
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>> "When nominating someone for a federal office, all delegates must be free to vote their conscience," Richard Gilbert, of Gilbert & Marlowe, attorney for the delegates,

How about. . Delegates should vote the way the PEOPLE who voted on primary day, told them to vote!

The Paulites pull crap like this, and the can't seem to understand why people despise them so much. . .
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It simply HAS to be a plot by Obamites to replace Romney with the completely unelectable Paul or just muddy the water so Obie can claim the Republican party isn't behind Romney. It is nothing but dirty tricks by the Obama crowd.
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It simply HAS to be a plot by Obamites to replace Romney with the completely unelectable Paul or just muddy the water so Obie can claim the Republican party isn't behind Romney. It is nothing but dirty tricks by the Obama crowd.
Actually, if you keep kicking your dog it will eventually turn around and bite you. Has nothing to do with Obama at all so take the tinfoil hat off. Did you know that just today the Mass GOP decided to illegally kick off all Paul delegates that won RNC delegate spots fair and square at district conventions? Then they want to act surprised and offended (or in your case, go off the reservation completely with conspiracy theories) when their dirty tricks are exposed for the world to see. I'm personally not sure if this lawsuit will help more than harm in the long run but I do like to see all the dirty laundry waving in the air for all to see since the media isn't doing the job of reporting the truth.

If Obama happens to win, then so be it. He's going to win anyway so any effort to restore fair and transparent elections isn't a loss for anyone but those that participate in the fraud.
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Actually, if you keep kicking your dog it will eventually turn around and bite you. Has nothing to do with Obama at all so take the tinfoil hat off. Did you know that just today the Mass GOP decided to illegally kick off all Paul delegates that won RNC delegate spots fair and square at district conventions? Then they want to act surprised and offended (or in your case, go off the reservation completely with conspiracy theories) when their dirty tricks are exposed for the world to see. I'm personally not sure if this lawsuit will help more than harm in the long run but I do like to see all the dirty laundry waving in the air for all to see since the media isn't doing the job of reporting the truth.

If Obama happens to win, then so be it. He's going to win anyway so any effort to restore fair and transparent elections isn't a loss for anyone but those that participate in the fraud.
Let's see you said,

It has nothing to do with Obama, that is one of those silly "conspiracy theories". there is a conspiracy among the Republicans, and Obama is going to win anyway.

I think it is the last part that is most telling, but that's just the way you presented it I suppose.
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Let's see you said,

It has nothing to do with Obama, that is one of those silly "conspiracy theories". there is a conspiracy among the Republicans, and Obama is going to win anyway.

I think it is the last part that is most telling, but that's just the way you presented it I suppose.
Im not completely following your line of reasoning. You do realize that things happen separately in politics and are not always connected. Ive been saying all along that Obama will win regardless of what the GOP (or Paul supporters) does so this lawsuit doesn't change anything except expose the dirty tricks. Dirty tricks that the Dems also use, btw. Politically, I'd be very careful if I were the DNC thinking about touching this issue since it could bring the same tactics in their party to the forefront, netting them a net loss as well.
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This is a very apt illustration of how some folks just can't bring themselves to accept reality. The more desperate they become, the more extreme they act.
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