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06-06-2012, 12:04
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Anyone have a link to the video of the incident? I'd like to see what the jury saw.
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06-06-2012, 13:29
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Originally Posted by xArcher
Anyone have a link to the video of the incident? I'd like to see what the jury saw.
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http://www.chron.com/news/houston-te...to-3611376.php
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06-06-2012, 12:43
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I'll give credit where it's due - at least the guy wasn't so cowardly he had to call the police rather than ask his neighbors to turn down the stereo. Most here would be hiding in a closet with body armor and a cell phone (based on years of reading their posts).
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06-06-2012, 12:52
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Originally Posted by Bren
I'll give credit where it's due - at least the guy wasn't so cowardly he had to call the police rather than ask his neighbors to turn down the stereo. Most here would be hiding in a closet with body armor and a cell phone (based on years of reading their posts).
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I'm with you if they're knifing or raping people in the yard, but take a gun expecting to control the situation with a bunch of testosterone-fueled drunk guys who won't turn their music down?
All that takes is a big case of STUPID.
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06-06-2012, 13:15
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He is toast.
Had he stayed in his house, waiting for police to arrive, it would have worked out much better for him.
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06-18-2012, 22:13
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Originally Posted by Glockdude1
He is toast.
Had he stayed in his house, waiting for police to arrive, it would have worked out much better for him.

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I agree but a real good attorney would have made the guys look like they were all evil drunks. It did not work out that way.
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06-27-2012, 16:32
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40 Years!!!
http://www.khou.com/news/Jury-decidi...160537515.html
I hope he does every day of that 40 years!!!
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06-14-2012, 20:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bren
I'll give credit where it's due - at least the guy wasn't so cowardly he had to call the police rather than ask his neighbors to turn down the stereo. Most here would be hiding in a closet with body armor and a cell phone (based on years of reading their posts).
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discretion is the better part of valor....and beats worrying about dropping the soap.
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06-06-2012, 13:11
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Not a real smart thing to do! Go ask once for them to turn it down - let them know if they don't you'll call the cops next. End it go home let them drunk dorks decide there course of action. And to the OP how was he playing cop? You need to change your title he never said he was LEO in the video. And yes as a citizen anyone has the right to ask those creating a nusance to turn there MUSIC DOWN!
I've done it many times, ask politely once -inform them if they don't the next knock will be a cop! Most time if they have any common sense it's over -never have to call PoPo.
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06-06-2012, 13:20
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He was asking for trouble there. I don't understand why he didn't just call the police and complain about a sound ordinance violation. There was no reason to leave his home.
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06-06-2012, 13:27
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Originally Posted by packsaddle
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Not sure what one of the victim's being a PE teacher, and one a firefighter hs to do with the case.
Not even sure why their inclusion of those irrelevent details jumped out at me.
It gets about 1000% harder to sell a "good shoot" when you go to someone else's party to lodge a complaint, and go armed......
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06-06-2012, 14:05
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Originally Posted by DScottHewitt
Not sure what one of the victim's being a PE teacher, and one a firefighter hs to do with the case.
Not even sure why their inclusion of those irrelevent details jumped out at me.
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I don't know, maybe to show that they were employed, productive members of the community and not a party full of ganbangers or thugs.
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06-06-2012, 17:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrsurfboard
I don't know, maybe to show that they were employed, productive members of the community and not a party full of ganbangers or thugs.
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exactly
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06-06-2012, 18:03
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The folks he shot, were they armed?
What was his reason for shooting them?
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06-07-2012, 12:45
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Originally Posted by mrsurfboard
I don't know, maybe to show that they were employed, productive members of the community and not a party full of ganbangers or thugs.
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So, the victims would be less dead/less victims if they did not fit your "acceptable people" stereotype?
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06-07-2012, 13:41
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Originally Posted by DScottHewitt
So, the victims would be less dead/less victims if they did not fit your "acceptable people" stereotype?
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It's the news there trying to get you to pick there side or buy into the story more, if they told you the guys where drug dealers you may feel sympathy on the side of the guy with the camera. The news is a business and they do what they can to sell themselves through there stories, thats why the Zimmerman case became so large
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06-07-2012, 13:55
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Originally Posted by Redheadhunter21
It's the news there trying to get you to pick there side or buy into the story more, if they told you the guys where drug dealers you may feel sympathy on the side of the guy with the camera. The news is a business and they do what they can to sell themselves through there stories, thats why the Zimmerman case became so large
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Yeah. That was my point. The occupation of the victims had nothing to do with it being right or wrong of the accused to escalate the issue. He frakked up. They had the right side. No need to "ice the cake" so to speak.
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06-07-2012, 16:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DScottHewitt
Not sure what one of the victim's being a PE teacher, and one a firefighter hs to do with the case.
Not even sure why their inclusion of those irrelevent details jumped out at me.
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+1. I was thinking the same thing. DA trying to get sympathy rather than really prosecuting on the legal issues. Same with the "holstered gun and a spare clip" argument. Most Asst. DA's are minimally paid gov't employees, many with agendas.
I guess the inference is that a PE teacher and a firefighter can't be drunk *******s. Obviously, they were here. Whether the shooting was justified is another story.
I have not seen, nor heard all of the evidence so i can't really comment on the case, but I'm sure the ADA will try to sway the Jury with facts that are irrelevant.
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06-06-2012, 14:04
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As in the case of Zimmerman, this guy went looking for trouble. I hope he is found guilty. Just another example of someone who should never have had a permit and why many people are against CC.
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06-06-2012, 17:46
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Originally Posted by mrsurfboard
As in the case of Zimmerman, this guy went looking for trouble. I hope he is found guilty. Just another example of someone who should never have had a permit and why many people are against CC.
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I agree, he went looking for trouble and found it
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06-07-2012, 16:27
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Originally Posted by mrsurfboard
As in the case of Zimmerman, this guy went looking for trouble. I hope he is found guilty. Just another example of someone who should never have had a permit and why many people are against CC.
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yeah between this and the chl holder that accidently killed the clerk at the $ store during a holdup shootout, it looks bad on tx chl
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06-08-2012, 21:56
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Originally Posted by mrsurfboard
as in the case of zimmerman, this guy went looking for trouble. I hope he is found guilty. Just another example of someone who should never have had a permit and why many people are against cc.
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wrong!
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06-06-2012, 18:45
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Damn stupid SOB had every chance in the world to walk away. This is the kind of **** that feeds the fuel to the anti-crowd, and each retard move like this can tip the scales of public opinion more and more.
Drunk guy tells you that because you're flashing your gun, he's going into his house to get his gun...
And you just ****ing stand there waiting for him to get back???
"I'm standing my ground, and now they're going to kill me."
WTF? I wanna hang this idiot myself. "God damn I hope I don't die of old age before I get a chance to shoot somebody with my gun."
*******!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rant over.
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I have no problem charging somebody stark nekid, with a TP tail hanging from my butt... Maybe they'll go to their maker with a smile on their face.
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06-06-2012, 19:20
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I thought the reason to carry a gun was to defend yourself? Loud music does not put anyone in danger.
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