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05-25-2012, 18:43
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Sig Sauer Won't Give Left Handed Officers a Break
I tried to purchase a P238 today from Sig Sauer with the individual officer program. They wont give me the law enforcement pricing for the gun with the ambi safety on it. I have to pay full price for the cheapest model with the ambi's. Thats a difference of nearly $167.
I was told I could buy the gun, wait the 90 or so days for it to arrive from Sig and then ship the gun back to them at my cost and then have to pay $120 to have an ambi safety installed.
So I guess my question would be, does any one know how to get the safety at a reasonable price? Then, why does Sig hate us left handed officers? WTF
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05-25-2012, 18:46
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Cause your a lefty. Thats why.....
I can't answer your question. Cochese will be along shortly because he has a P238.
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05-25-2012, 19:39
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I hate to chastise you on what might be your favorite BUG, but the p238 was based on an fairly unreliable, minimal caliber gun, and hasn't been able to improve upon it from what I have seen.
Why not buy one of the many, more reliable, less expensive, guns chambered in a (cheaper to shoot) standard duty caliber?
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05-25-2012, 19:51
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Write the CEO a letter and politely ask why the discrepancy in pricing.
Other than that, all I can offer is to look around and buy a used one cheap and have the safety installed equal to the discounted price or less.
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05-27-2012, 14:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blueiron
Write the CEO a letter and politely ask why the discrepancy in pricing.
Other than that, all I can offer is to look around and buy a used one cheap and have the safety installed equal to the discounted price or less.
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And point out that in less than 2 days, this message has reached over 500 readers on a single thread. This will have no doubt influenced many officers who may have decided to take their hard earned money to another manufacturer. 
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05-27-2012, 14:32
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I never knew they Han a ambi kit for the 238. Interesting and heartbreaking at the same time. Now I know it exists and is a pain to obtain.
Kinda like my experience wit HK. not kinda but exactly. Same thing for me trying to get a comPact from V1 to V2.
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05-28-2012, 10:51
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Originally Posted by Southswede
And point out that in less than 2 days, this message has reached over 500 readers on a single thread. This will have no doubt influenced many officers who may have decided to take their hard earned money to another manufacturer. |
apparently they honestly dont care about bad press/publicity.
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05-29-2012, 12:15
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Originally Posted by Kahr_Glockman
Cause your a lefty. Thats why.....
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And, there is something wrong with your brain that made you that way. 
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05-29-2012, 15:01
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Originally Posted by series1811
And, there is something wrong with your brain that made you that way. |
Since the left side of the brain controls the right side of the body, and the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, left handed people are the only ones in their right minds... 
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05-25-2012, 20:29
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It has been my experience that Sig's customer service just doesn't give a ****. I have used several companies customer service and have always been treated good, except for Sig. That is why I don't have any.
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05-25-2012, 20:47
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Thats surprising. Sig has bent over backwards for our agency since they started supplying our sidearms in the early 90's. I bought two personal Sigs and reccomended one to my father just based on the positive experience with our duty guns.
I would think a phone call should clear this up.
BTW the P238 is the gun my dad bought and I was very impressed with it. I prefer jframes for pocket/BUGs but the P238 shoots like a much bigger gun. It has also been 100% reliable.
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05-26-2012, 13:01
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Do you use safety lever on your gun SO MUCH that you really need a ambidextrous selector installed? Just curious.
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05-26-2012, 13:11
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Can't you just leave the safety off?
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05-26-2012, 13:41
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Unless the weapon is left in condition zero [unloaded chamber], having a disengaged or removed safety on a 1911 style single action auto pistol used as a BUG is a poor idea.
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05-26-2012, 16:50
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Originally Posted by blueiron
Unless the weapon is left in condition zero [unloaded chamber], having a disengaged or removed safety on a 1911 style single action auto pistol used as a BUG is a poor idea.
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My mistake. I didn't know it was a 1911 style pistol.
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05-26-2012, 17:52
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Originally Posted by txleapd
My mistake. I didn't know it was a 1911 style pistol.
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Don't worry, I had to make certain that it was the Colt Mustang clone and not the P230/232 myself.
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05-26-2012, 17:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by txleapd
Can't you just leave the safety off?
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Not the point. It is what he wants to do with the designated part that is to be used as a safety.
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05-26-2012, 17:23
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Originally Posted by Jackalo626
Not the point. It is what he wants to do with the designated part that is to be used as a safety.
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Thanks for clearing that up. 
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05-26-2012, 17:31
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Originally Posted by txleapd
Thanks for clearing that up. |
I didn't mean it in a negative tone, just saying that answer didn't help his problem.
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05-26-2012, 19:25
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Originally Posted by Jackalo626
I didn't mean it in a negative tone, just saying that answer didn't help his problem.
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God forbid someone ask a clarifying question.... Right?
Your comment to me added nothing to the conversation, and provided no help to the OP either, did it?
I seem to have missed you addressing the other posts questioning why the OP has chosen a .380 platform, when that wasn't his question either. I guess I'm just special, to warrant your attention.....
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05-28-2012, 10:49
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Originally Posted by txleapd
Can't you just leave the safety off?
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On a 1911 style gun carried cocked and ready to go and that i dont believe has a backstrap safety also...id not carry it safety off. (im assuming as close to people say these are to the old colt mustangs that they have essentially the same features and I know when i owned a colt mustang id never carry it safety off lol)
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05-28-2012, 19:17
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Originally Posted by CBennett
On a 1911 style gun carried cocked and ready to go and that i dont believe has a backstrap safety also...id not carry it safety off. (im assuming as close to people say these are to the old colt mustangs that they have essentially the same features and I know when i owned a colt mustang id never carry it safety off lol)
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I believe this subject has been covered in the first page. Thanks.
They're coming out of the woodwork for me, aren't they? It must be my new cologne.
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05-28-2012, 20:12
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Originally Posted by txleapd
I believe this subject has been covered in the first page. Thanks.
They're coming out of the woodwork for me, aren't they? It must be my new cologne.
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05-28-2012, 20:26
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They're coming out of the woodwork for me, aren't they? It must be my new cologne.
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05-26-2012, 14:42
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Why are you wasting your time on a .380? You can find 9mm pistols of similar size all over the place. Hell, some .40 cal guns are close in sixe to .380 guns. If small size is that important to you get a .22 or .25. This is just me but I think .380 is getting pretty useless these days.
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