[Fwdftw]

350 for a Hammer Forged CMV mid length upper vs a Standard mid length Upper from BCM for 420. Man.. That is one helluva deal can someone give me one reason why i shouldnt jump?

[TedG]

Other than brand-loyalty, I can't think of a good reason.

[Fwdftw]

I will say this.. BCM Bcg in what ever i buy.

Did some googling. Didnt really see anything wrong

[Cole125]

Originally Posted by Fwdftw

I will say this.. BCM Bcg in what ever i buy.

Did some googling. Didnt really see anything wrong

Good idea, while there is no significant difference in quality between BCM and PSA uppers and barrels(correct me if I am wrong), the BCGs are a different story.

BCM makes some of the best BCG you can get and the only ones I run in my ARs.

[Javelin]

Originally Posted by Fwdftw

I will say this.. BCM Bcg in what ever i buy.

Did some googling. Didnt really see anything wrong

Yeah that does look to be a great deal. Wish I had a gun that needed built... just cannot justify building another AR or I'd do it.


Not that there is anything wrong with a BCM BCG but why not LMT enhanced? They have their claim to fame of redesigning the BCG. Anyway just thought I'd throw that out there. I was thinking about going with an LMT enhanced bolt the next time I build.

[Glockz0r]

Originally Posted by Fwdftw

I will say this.. BCM Bcg in what ever i buy.

Did some googling. Didnt really see anything wrong

That is exactly what I did when I put together my PSA 16" CHF Dissy rifle a few months ago. I also went with the BCM Gunfighter mod4 CH and I was not disappointed. I've only put 90 rounds through my rifle since but they all went bang except the last one...and that was when I discovered I put the hammer spring on wrong and the pin had walked out.

[Fwdftw]

idk Javelin i havent really researched it that much. Just all my friends preach the BCM to me all day. Isnt the FN Hammer forged barrel better than a standard BCM barrel? both 1:7

[Javelin]

Originally Posted by Fwdftw

idk Javelin i havent really researched it that much. Just all my friends preach the BCM to me all day. Isnt the FN Hammer forged barrel better than a standard BCM barrel? both 1:7

I'm not sure honestly. It would be kind of neat if someone would post a clean precision bench test on one to see what MOA they are capable of.

[12131]

Someone corrects me if I'm wrong, but BCM doesn't "make" anything. Actual manufacturers make stuff for them to their specs, and then they (BCM) insure the stuff pass their QC, and then they assemble the stuff together, and then they test the final products before shipping out.

[Airhasz]

Originally Posted by 12131

Someone corrects me if I'm wrong, but BCM doesn't "make" anything. Actual manufacturers make stuff for them to their specs, and then they (BCM) insure the stuff pass their QC, and then they assemble the stuff together, and then they test the final products before shipping out.

Noooooooo...not BCM

[WoodenPlank]

Originally Posted by Airhasz

Noooooooo...not BCM

There's nothing wrong with that, actually. You can buy parts from DPMS all day long, and after they've been run through a stringent QC process, you can end up with some quality parts. You'd also end up with a lot of rejects to send back, I'm sure. Stringent QC is one of the biggest things that separates the top-drawer companies from the rest, along with using proper materials and techniques (something proper QC practices ensure).

[Aux Bear]

Originally Posted by 12131

Someone corrects me if I'm wrong, but BCM doesn't "make" anything. Actual manufacturers make stuff for them to their specs, and then they (BCM) insure the stuff pass their QC, and then they assemble the stuff together, and then they test the final products before shipping out.

Mmmm. Ford, GM, Chrysler and many others car manufacturers don't "make" anything either by that definition. They are, by their nature, assembly plants. Even when they have other plants that meet that "make" definition they each have unique names. Just food for thought.

[bmoore]

Im certainly not gonna argue against a BCM carrier group, but I hope that people give PSA BCG's a fair shake and let them prove themselves. I put one in my dads DPMS 20" A2 upper I built him and it runs like a sewing machine with it, and it seems to be more beefy/better quality. Hopefully some PSA's will start showing up in some carbine classes and we will all get to see how they stand up.

[punkey71]

Could you please post side by side pics of your BCM and PSA BCGs and place arrows where the PSA is "more beefy/better quality"?

Originally Posted by bmoore

Im certainly not gonna argue against a BCM carrier group, but I hope that people give PSA BCG's a fair shake and let them prove themselves. I put one in my dads DPMS 20" A2 upper I built him and it runs like a sewing machine with it, and it seems to be more beefy/better quality. Hopefully some PSA's will start showing up in some carbine classes and we will all get to see how they stand up.

[12131]

I totally agree with giving PSA stuff a fair shake, since on paper, they look excellent.
But, "better quality" and "more beefy"? Based on what?

[bmoore]

Originally Posted by punkey71

Could you please post side by side pics of your BCM and PSA BCGs and place arrows where the PSA is "more beefy/better quality"?

I was refering to a PSA vs a DPMS. No I cant, #1 because I just sold and shipped the DPMS carrier group and #2 because you are a troll who looks for trouble and then cant back up anything. Im still waiting for run stats of the power weak FD you claim to work for. Your entire operation is as weak as it gets.

You bring nothing to the table in any thread except garbage. No advice, no heads up on good deals, no feedback just utter garbage. Your last post was months ago. Beat it, go run that uber professional clown dress up FD station of yours. Dont reply because your on my ignore list.

[punkey71]

Ohhh...ok. Then please tell us where it was "more beefy" compared to the DPMS. Surely something so obvious could be explained. You can google a pic of both for reference if need be.

The reason you can't is because you have nothing to offer except feelings. Critical thinking adults looking for information don't care about feelings. Someone coming here looking for information deserves actual data backed up by facts. This forum used to do that, and when I had factual information to share, I would.

The majority of knowledgeable members have given up on this forum because of the very nonsense people like you post. Every once in a while I check the forum and see ridiculous statements like "more beefy". That is why I don't contribute much. I wasn't the only one who thought that was a ridiculous assessment of a critical component to the firearm.

Sadly, when you are called on it you resort to personal attacks in an attempt to deflect attention away from your mis-information. Do you really think anyone, beyond industry professionals, would divulge their place of employment on a internet forum? Seriously? I could simply make something up and lie. Just like you did.

"More beefy"? Really? That's YOUR contribution? We get it, your a PSA shill. PSA could take a dump on your chest and your only question would be "where did all this free fudge come from?" You simply could have pointed out the specs of the PSA bolt vs DPMS or others and actually helped someone.

Do everyone who might come here in the future looking for substantive data a favor. Stop posting garbage for the sake of "contributing".

You're not helping anyone.

Originally Posted by bmoore

I was refering to a PSA vs a DPMS. No I cant, #1 because I just sold and shipped the DPMS carrier group and #2 because you are a troll who looks for trouble and then cant back up anything. Im still waiting for run stats of the power weak FD you claim to work for. Your entire operation is as weak as it gets.

You bring nothing to the table in any thread except garbage. No advice, no heads up on good deals, no feedback just utter garbage. Your last post was months ago. Beat it, go run that uber professional clown dress up FD station of yours. Dont reply because your on my ignore list.

[MD357]

Originally Posted by punkey71

Ohhh...ok. Then please tell us where it was "more beefy" compared to the DPMS. Surely something so obvious could be explained. You can google a pic of both for reference if need be.

I had problems finding a comparison pic? Do you have one so that you could highlight the similarity so someone could reference? Just curious if you can give us the facts, since you claim to relay factual information.

[Cole125]

Originally Posted by punkey71

Someone coming here looking for information deserves actual data backed up by facts. This forum used to do that, and when I had factual information to share, I would

Good posting, while there is BS on here sometimes there are lots of guys in this forum who know what they are talking about, and I have learned a lot here. I don't like BS either and when I see it I call people on.

This should be a place of learning and information I agree. However, personal attacks do not help anyone.

[Fwdftw]

well i ordered one. we shall see.

[txgunguy]

Originally Posted by bmoore

I was refering to a PSA vs a DPMS. No I cant, #1 because I just sold and shipped the DPMS carrier group and #2 because you are a troll who looks for trouble and then cant back up anything. Im still waiting for run stats of the power weak FD you claim to work for. Your entire operation is as weak as it gets.

Lol owned.

[bmoore]

Originally Posted by txgunguy

Lol owned.

I mean geez the guy hasnt posted or brought a darn thing to the table in MONTHS.

[punkey71]

Grow up. Serious firearms enthusiasts and professionals used to come here to exchange information and factual data.

Originally Posted by txgunguy

Lol owned.

[Foxtrotx1]

Originally Posted by punkey71

Grow up. Serious firearms enthusiasts and professionals used to come here to exchange information and factual data.

hahaha, you don't see GNG much do you?

[Jer]

I've got one of the PSA uppers on it's way but for BCG the Young Manufacturing Chrome BCG is what will be going into mine. They stay cleaner and are easier to clean up. They run like a champ too.