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Old 02-25-2012, 22:20   #1
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Fear of AD while holstering my 27

I use quality holsters for my Glock 27, a Don Hume and a Crossbreed that I've had for years. I always carry in Conditin 1.

I still feel apprehensive when holstering my Glock, even though I watch the gun into the holster. I've never had the nerve to holster without watching the gun and holster, although I would prefer to do so.

It's not an issue with having a Glock - I know that any gun will go bang if it's cocked with one in the tube and the trigger is pulled. I have a Glock because I like the feeling I get from knowing that I've fired 1000's of rounds from it without a glitch.

I was hoping that this feeling would pass in time, but no luck, so far. Can anyone relate to this -- any tips?

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Old 02-25-2012, 22:23   #2
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I'd say... well I don't really know, don't pull the trigger, the gun don't go bang.
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Old 02-26-2012, 14:28   #3
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I'd say... well I don't really know, don't pull the trigger, the gun don't go bang.
That seems lie an accurate statement. Just use caution when putting the gun into the holster and all should be good.
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Old 02-25-2012, 22:27   #4
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Try using a NY1 trigger spring with a ghost 3.5 connector. It is what I put in my G27 for just that reason, to decrease the likelihood of a negligent discharge. The feel is really nice also, I didn't think I would like it, but wanted to give it a try anyway, and I'm glad I did, it's really nice!
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Old 02-25-2012, 23:04   #5
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In a hip holster or duty holster, it doesn't bother me. If somehow it goes bang from something getting caught up in the trigger, aat most I will have a crease in my ass.

Appendix carry is another matter. I personally can't make myself carry a Glock pointed at my femoral artery. I've tried. If I did, I would remove the holster, put the gun in it and then put the holster back on.

Its a personal thing. Lots of people carry them appendix and very very few seem to get shot. Mechanically, the gun is safe enough, I just can't.
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Old 02-25-2012, 23:06   #6
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I was hoping that this feeling would pass in time, but no luck, so far. Can anyone relate to this -- any tips?

Randy
Yes, I can relate to you feelings. I trust that for me, that feeling always is with me. When it passes, I will be more prone to an accident. Be safe.
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Old 02-25-2012, 23:16   #7
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Do what I did. Carry unloaded and do what you normally would do over and over and over and see if you can accidentally on purpose cause a discharge. I have slept with a Glock many times under my pillow and I have never woke up in the morning to find the trigger depressed. After all that you should feel confident that with conscious effort you worries will dissipate.
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Old 02-25-2012, 23:26   #8
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practice makes perfect. if you trust your holster enough to use it without worrying that you will have an AD while wearing it, you should be confident enough to pull it in and out of the holster without too much concern. that being said, safety is paramount and should always be your priority. like NCHeel said, practice holstering and unholstering unloaded and get that confidence up. i have a blackhawk serpa and just hearing that "click" gives me all the confidence i need to keep it movin
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Old 02-25-2012, 23:42   #9
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Sounds like your just being careful. Nothing wrong with that. It's like jumping out of a plane, is it wrong if you still get butterflies after hundreds of jumps? = No
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Old 02-26-2012, 00:36   #10
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That's one nice advantage to a hammer fired gun; thumb over the hammer while reholstering.

One can practice all they want. But they're called "accidents" for a reason.
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Old 02-26-2012, 00:52   #11
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I use quality holsters for my Glock 27, a Don Hume and a Crossbreed that I've had for years. I always carry in Conditin 1.

I still feel apprehensive when holstering my Glock, even though I watch the gun into the holster. I've never had the nerve to holster without watching the gun and holster, although I would prefer to do so.

It's not an issue with having a Glock - I know that any gun will go bang if it's cocked with one in the tube and the trigger is pulled. I have a Glock because I like the feeling I get from knowing that I've fired 1000's of rounds from it without a glitch.

I was hoping that this feeling would pass in time, but no luck, so far. Can anyone relate to this -- any tips?

Randy
It doesn't take "nerve" to holster a Glock without watching it; it takes carelessness. I don't understand why you would want to holster a Glock (or any gun) without watching to ensure no clothing, material or thumbsnap gets caught in the trigger guard.
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Old 02-29-2012, 18:19   #12
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It doesn't take "nerve" to holster a Glock without watching it; it takes carelessness. I don't understand why you would want to holster a Glock (or any gun) without watching to ensure no clothing, material or thumbsnap gets caught in the trigger guard.

Oh that is easy.

You are busy watching something, or for something.

There is no rule that says threats travel alone. And if there was the thugs would probably ignore it.

You may need to reholster momentarily to have use of both hands to perform some task (like opening a door with a flashlight in one hand and a pistol in the other.

You could need to scale a fence or other obstacle.


There are lots and lots of reasons one could need to reholster while their eyes are busy.

In fact, learning to reholster while NOT looking is a standard skill introduced in most basic (firearm) self defense classes and all but a prerequisite to have practiced to the point of being instinctual beyond entry level classes.


'course, well, obviously if you carry a firearm for some other reason than defense . . . I can see how it could be an optional skill.

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Old 02-26-2012, 02:15   #13
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Personally, I think the whole don't look at your pistol while you reholster is over blown. When do you reholster? When the fight is OVER. IMHO, look while reholstering all you want.
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Old 02-28-2012, 13:59   #14
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Personally, I think the whole don't look at your pistol while you reholster is over blown. When do you reholster? When the fight is OVER. IMHO, look while reholstering all you want.
Here is one of the reasons explained:
(Starting at the :27 mark and going to 1:10)
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Here is one of the reasons explained:
(Starting at the :27 mark and going to 1:10)
Massad Ayoob (Aftermath Shooting) - YouTube
Dosei, Good job posting that video of Mas.

I'll add a bit by saying don't buy cheap holsters. Buy quality holsters with a metal band sewn around the mouth of the holster so it doesn't collapse when the gun is not holstered.

And for G-d's sake get rid of those "smart carry" holsters (which I call "idiot carry" holsters). Don't be carrying your gun in a holster that points to your "junk" and femoral arteries. Try reholstering with your "idiot carry" while still trembling on your adrenalin high...
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Old 02-26-2012, 02:54   #16
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I can relate. IMO it's good that you have this feeling. It might keep you alive. You should always be careful reholstering. Good luck!
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Old 02-26-2012, 05:48   #17
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Nothing wrong with it. Keep doing what you're doing. Just stop worrying too much.
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Old 02-26-2012, 05:56   #18
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I can't relate.From day one I have always had faith in the safeties built into my Glocks.
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Old 02-26-2012, 06:56   #19
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I have no problem reholstering without looking when I'm using a Kydex holster. I do put my finger over the outside of the trigger guard until I feel it going into the holster. I also reholster slowly.

I have a simple belt slide holster that I often wear when I'm at home. It isn't stiff like Kydex so I have to use both hands when reholstering and I do this while looking and using both hands.

If I'm going to be shot, I don't want it to be me that does it!
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Old 02-26-2012, 07:17   #20
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Concealment holsters are so close to your body, the clothes and accessories my get involved and cause troubles. Duty holster, not so much.

Except for revolvers, all my belt holsters are paddle or clip on. With them and my pocket holsters, I holster the gun and then put the holster on.

Another thing is to practice with an unloaded firearm when you get a new holster or carry style. What works with one type of holster may cause an issue with another.

My only Unintentional Discharge (in 45 years of shooting) was an IWB where a plastic part broke and all went to hell in a hurry. I used to put my trigger finger on the trigger guard. After that incident, I put my trigger finger on the frame above the trigger, on the slide, or around the front strap on the grip, when holstering.
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