[Nib-XG26]

I bought a Stevens model 320 shotgun and its a POS, I shot 30 rounds through it it jammed about 25. It jammed on the eject cycle and inject cycle. Stevens/Savage will be getting it back. But it got me thinking how often does a lemon get bought? I have owned close to 100 guns in my life and been very fortunate this is my first real lemon (besides a .22lr on occasion).

So anyone have any stories? I would love to hear them!

[Tony Rumore]

AMT Hardballer Longslide, circa 1981. Complete POS.
Out of the box, it would not chamber or eject a single round.
I had to poke the round into the chamber, close the slide, fire it, then pull the slide back and manually dump the empty out. Eventually, the barrel burst. The lug tore a section out of the barrel.

That's the short version of the story.

[AA#5]

A Remington 597 (22 rifle). After the first 10 rounds were OK, it started failing to feed and eject. Then, rounds would get stuck halfway down the magazine. Then, it got kinda fun when it started full-auto - 4 rounds with one trigger pull & the RO got a little pissed.

A buddy also bought one at the same time. His wouldn't fire a 10-rd. mag without malfunctioning.

After two factory "fixes" with nothing fixed, we both made Remington give us full refunds.

[Nib-XG26]

Originally Posted by AA#5

A Remington 597 (22 rifle). After the first 10 rounds were OK, it started failing to feed and eject. Then, rounds would get stuck halfway down the magazine. Then, it got kinda fun when it started full-auto - 4 rounds with one trigger pull & the RO got a little pissed.

A buddy also bought one at the same time. His wouldn't fire a 10-rd. mag without malfunctioning.

After two factory "fixes" with nothing fixed, we both made Remington give us full refunds.

It makes it a little better when there is a good manufacturer to back the gun, but it still sucks when you spend hard earned cash on a gun and its junk!

[AA#5]

Originally Posted by Nib-XG26

It makes it a little better when there is a good manufacturer to back the gun, but it still sucks when you spend hard earned cash on a gun and its junk!

Sure does. That $99.00 sale price was what made them so tempting to us. They had really nice fiberglass stocks which were probably worth almost the cost of the whole rifle.

[Jason D]

Originally Posted by AA#5

A Remington 597 (22 rifle). After the first 10 rounds were OK, it started failing to feed and eject. Then, rounds would get stuck halfway down the magazine. Then, it got kinda fun when it started full-auto - 4 rounds with one trigger pull & the RO got a little pissed.

A buddy also bought one at the same time. His wouldn't fire a 10-rd. mag without malfunctioning.

After two factory "fixes" with nothing fixed, we both made Remington give us full refunds.

I bought one of the first LSS on the market back when they came out. Total piece of crap. My Dad bought the cheapest version they made around the same time I got my rifle and his has been nothing but reliable.

[AA#5]

Originally Posted by Tony Rumore

AMT Hardballer Longslide, circa 1981. Complete POS.
Out of the box, it would not chamber or eject a single round.
I had to poke the round into the chamber, close the slide, fire it, then pull the slide back and manually dump the empty out. Eventually, the barrel burst. The lug tore a section out of the barrel.

That's the short version of the story.

I think the one in "Terminator" also jammed when Arnold was shooting the wrong Saaaaara Connor. Something fell off the gun on the last shot.

When I was in retail firearms, the AMT Back Up 380 was also a lemon. Most of them came back for repair.

[Nib-XG26]

Originally Posted by Tony Rumore

AMT Hardballer Longslide, circa 1981. Complete POS.
Out of the box, it would not chamber or eject a single round.
I had to poke the round into the chamber, close the slide, fire it, then pull the slide back and manually dump the empty out. Eventually, the barrel burst. The lug tore a section out of the barrel.

That's the short version of the story.

that's way worse then my POS did you get some kind of reimbursement?

[The Habit]

A stainless Taurus PT1911. That thing was a turd. ILS (in the hammer) broke after 80 rounds. I replaced the hammer with a Nowlin Pro only to have the ambi safeties start falling out shortly thereafter. It was the only gun I've ever had rust in a humidity controlled safe. No other gun has ever had even a speck of rust. The MIM parts on the Taurus started rusting with the quickness. It was not terribly accurate either.

I sold it a gun show and have never been so glad to see a gun go.

[Nib-XG26]

Originally Posted by The Habit

A stainless Taurus PT1911. That thing was a turd. ILS (in the hammer) broke after 80 rounds. I replaced the hammer with a Nowlin Pro only to have the ambi safeties start falling out shortly thereafter. It was the only gun I've ever had rust in a humidity controlled safe. No other gun has ever had even a speck of rust. The MIM parts on the Taurus started rusting with the quickness. It was not terribly accurate either.

I sold it a gun show and have never been so glad to see a gun go.

I have heard a few horror stories about the Taurus 1911 and most of them were about the safety

[DJ Niner]

I got caught-up in two consecutive S&W recalls in the 80s (model 469 9mm, and 586 .357).

Made myself a promise to not buy any new gun designs/redesigns or new calibers until they had been on the market for at least 5 years (basically, let other folks be the Beta testers). Working well so far, but I broke the promise this year for the first time in 2+ decades. Waiting for the shoe to drop...

[NDGlock]

Originally Posted by DJ Niner

I got caught-up in two consecutive S&W recalls in the 80s (model 469 9mm, and 586 .357).

Made myself a promise to not buy any new gun designs/redesigns or new calibers until they had been on the market for at least 5 years (basically, let other folks be the Beta testers). Working well so far, but I broke the promise this year for the first time in 2+ decades. Waiting for the shoe to drop...

Intrigued now....what did you get if you don't mind me asking?

[DJ Niner]

Originally Posted by NDGlock

Intrigued now....what did you get if you don't mind me asking?

The model 469 9mm recall was for a problem with the safety lever and half-cock notch potentially leaving the hammer in an unsafe position after a partial manual cocking or partial DA trigger pull.

The model 586 .357 recall was the hammer-nose and/or hammer-nose bushing (surrounds the little hole where the hammer-nose (firing pin) passes through the frame and strikes the primer). If the bushing sunk below the level of the surrounding frame, primers could back-out slightly on firing, binding the cylinder (really tight).

The first and forth recalls shown on the page linked below:

http://firearmsid.com/Recalls/FA_Recalls%205.htm


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[D3S3RT_P3NGU1N]

Worst I've had was a Walther P22, I couldn't run a mag through that gun without a problem. Even with the recommended high velocity ammo it just refused to work

[Road Dog]

Winchester 94 trapper in 30-30. After visiting three gunsmiths it still won't work right. Its frustrating because it will out shoot my full size 94s but it won't cycle cartridges.

[DJ Niner]

Originally Posted by Road Dog

Winchester 94 trapper in 30-30. After visiting three gunsmiths it still won't work right. Its frustrating because it will out shoot my full size 94s but it won't cycle cartridges.

That would drive me crazy as well.

Hope you get it worked out, eventually.

[bac1023]

Had an early Para Warthog. It would not cycle a full mag without an issue.

[jmathis84]

My first handgun I bought. I can't even remeber who made it. All I know is that it was a Hungarian paratrooper militray pistol. Bought it and a box of ammo. Went home and shot it and the dag gum guide rode broke. Called the shop I bought it from and he said they didnt make parts for the gun no longer. He did however buy the gun back from me at cost.

[Reb 56]

Only weapon I ever owned that gave me any trouble was a KT-P3AT 2nd gen. Wouldn't get thru 1 mag with out a failure to feed.

[Bruce M]

I had an AMT backup 45 that I never could get to work right. And it had a trigger pull of about 68 pounds.

[bac1023]

Originally Posted by Bruce M

I had an AMT backup 45 that I never could get to work right. And it had a trigger pull of about 68 pounds.

Yeah, those things were notoriously bad.

[3000fps]

I really think the majority of firearms that have problems are attributed to user error in one form or the other. Improper cleaning, grip, ammunition etc.

I can't really say I've had a problem before. I think that some firearms have inherently worse designs than others that make them less reliable.

The PF9 and LCP don't seem to be as reliable as a larger pocket pistol like the G26.

Out of 3 M&P's I have purchased, they have each ran FLAWLESSLY out of the box with ANY ammunition. I absolutely love them.

[Bruce M]

Originally Posted by bac1023

Yeah, those things were notoriously bad.

Sigh no internet back then. The only thing I could judge it on was a AMT .380 that functioned fine on FMJ.

[Haldor]

Originally Posted by Bruce M

I had an AMT backup 45 that I never could get to work right. And it had a trigger pull of about 68 pounds.

At least is saved you a gym membership.

I bought an AMT backup 380 for my wife about 20 years ago. Never got as far as the trigger pull, she couldn't pull the slide back. Small blowback pistols are not fun guns to shoot especially for anyone who doesn't have significant grip strength.

[bunk22]

A Glock 36 for me, had multiple FTF's every 50 rounds. I had a half a dozen people shoot it, including the local so called "Glock" expert at the range. Everyone had the same issue. Got rid of it, life is to short to deal with a defective weapon.