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07-15-2011, 07:01
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Colt Delta Elite vs. Glock 20
So tell me about the Delta Elite and the Glock 20.
My intended purpose for a 10MM is as a backup while hunting varmints at night.
I also want a good shooter for some range time. I have heard some nightmare stories about the Deltas not hlding up to full power 10MM loads. I know there were frame cracking problems with the older Deltas. Have the newer samples with the frame relief solved the problem?
The obvious advantage to the G20 is magazine capacity and durability. But now I am concerned with the MIM extractors.
Any insight/experience would be greatly appreciated!
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07-15-2011, 09:25
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I voted with my $$$ and went with the reissue Colt Delta Elite. It handles much better than the 21/20 for me. The trigger is much better than the Glock and I have no need for a fat grip with the added mag capacity. I just carry two spare mags that I've never used.
The Delta handles my Double Tap just fine.
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07-15-2011, 09:31
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I'm not sure either would be a bad choice. I shoot Glocks but don't own a G20 (although I admit to having an interest in them!). On the other hand, I've been running rounds through my DE since 1988 and, except for replacing the recoil spring & GR, I haven't had a single issue. The ergonomics of the two are totally different, so check them both out and one will probably "feel better" to you. Then check your bank balance and make a decision.
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07-15-2011, 10:13
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Change the recoil springs at 1200-1500 as recommended & frame battering is solved.
Both are a great choice. I believe the Delta's trigger edges out the Glock.
However, the Delta is nearly double in cost to the G20. I HAD a G20,
I currently own a 1988 Delta Elite.
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07-15-2011, 10:39
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Thanks guys..
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07-15-2011, 10:38
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Colt Delta Elite.
Why? Because people will laugh when you whip out that ugly ass Glock.
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07-15-2011, 11:37
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I vote G20. Especially for a woods gun. My woods gun is a G20 and it gets wet, muddy, scratched and whatever else that can happen to a gun when you're in the woods. I like the fact that I have 16 10mm rounds on hand without a mag change. Plus, a G20 is gonna be more reliable than a DE. And I'm a huge DE fan. The G20 just makes sense as a woods gun IMO.
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07-15-2011, 11:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by glock2740
I vote G20. Especially for a woods gun.....
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Now this does make a lot of sense,.......
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07-15-2011, 12:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by glock2740
Plus, a G20 is gonna be more reliable than a DE. And I'm a huge DE fan. The G20 just makes sense as a woods gun IMO.
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I highly disagree with the first statement. The second statement I can agree with only from the standpoint of not caring about the finish; bangs and nicks.
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07-15-2011, 13:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge45
I highly disagree with the first statement. The second statement I can agree with only from the standpoint of not caring about the finish; bangs and nicks.
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Very much so,.......the Glock has a near indestructable finish.
You either have to work at it, or neglect it to compromise the finish.
I'll still carry my Delta,.........I love that gun!
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07-15-2011, 14:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge45
I highly disagree with the first statement. The second statement I can agree with only from the standpoint of not caring about the finish; bangs and nicks.
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I only say that, as 1911's, especially in 10mm, can have some reliability issues, especially when loaded hot, as compared to the 10mm Glock. Glocks in general, feed more reliably than a 1911. Especially with HP ammo, which is what I carry in my woods gun. I base my statement on my personal experiences with both. Not knocking the Delta Elite at all, as it is one of my favorite 1911's. But I have seen it jam before and neither of my Glock 10mm's has ever had a single failure.
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07-15-2011, 11:43
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both great guns
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07-15-2011, 11:46
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Comparing a Glock to a 1911 ????
1911 =
Glock =
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07-15-2011, 12:33
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For a woods gun i'd go with the G20 as well.
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07-15-2011, 13:51
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I really like Glocks but when I want to be sure I hit what I'm aiming at, 1911s work better for me. Especially when it's a longer shot.
I've spent a lot of time hunting and accuracy is very important. Animals don't know they're supposed to be dead when they've been shot so you gotta kill 'em good...
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07-15-2011, 14:49
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For a woods gun, I'll take my Ruger Vaquero or SuperBlackhawk in short barrel and loaded with Hornady .44 Mag Leverevolution loads.
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07-15-2011, 14:58
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falman,
Carrying a .44 mag is a good option. The only problem I have with it is that I am LE, and my agency only authorizes us to carry certain pistols and revolvers off duty. The Colt and Glock are both authorized.
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07-15-2011, 15:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 4949shooter
falman,
Carrying a .44 mag is a good option. The only problem I have with it is that I am LE, and my agency only authorizes us to carry certain pistols and revolvers off duty. The Colt and Glock are both authorized.
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That sucks. I guess you're stuck with those two then.
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07-15-2011, 19:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 4949shooter
falman,
Carrying a .44 mag is a good option. The only problem I have with it is that I am LE, and my agency only authorizes us to carry certain pistols and revolvers off duty. The Colt and Glock are both authorized.
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So what you are telling us is you can't carry any gun that you want when on you're own time. Man you are kidding right? So you go deer hunting and they are you're only choices. If that is true that must suck.
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07-15-2011, 19:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by limbkiller
So what you are telling us is you can't carry any gun that you want when on you're own time.
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I think it depends on each agencies policy. A friend who works for a local PD can carry his choice after he qualifies with it. As far as I know, he has to use issued ammunition when he carries off duty.
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07-16-2011, 04:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Gekko
I think it depends on each agencies policy. A friend who works for a local PD can carry his choice after he qualifies with it. As far as I know, he has to use issued ammunition when he carries off duty.
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That's true Mr. G., every agency is different. It was only about ten years ago that we were allowed to carry semi automatics off duty (not including our duty weapon). We could only carry .38/.357 snubbies prior.
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07-16-2011, 04:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by limbkiller
So what you are telling us is you can't carry any gun that you want when on you're own time.
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Unfortunately this is the way it is in my agency.
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02-17-2013, 16:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 4949shooter
Unfortunately this is the way it is in my agency.
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What does your off duty gun have to do with having a ..44 mag in the woods? Have your off duty approved gun on you, and you also have whatever else. Sorry guy's i can't go rabbit hunting with you this weekend, i can't use a .22.
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07-16-2011, 07:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by limbkiller
So what you are telling us is you can't carry any gun that you want when on you're own time. Man you are kidding right? So you go deer hunting and they are you're only choices. If that is true that must suck.
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07-17-2011, 08:10
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Exactly.
And I think one of the issues concerning limitations on off duty carry is the schools the amorers attend.
Thanks for all the responses..
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