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06-22-2011, 18:52
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Which 1911?
I own two 1911s, both purchased used. The first is a Loaded Springfield Armory Stainless. The second is a Colt Trophy Match. I'm a novice as far as 1911s go. Can anyone offer insight as to which is better? Which is more accurate? Which is more reliable? Are there any inherent problems with either?
If the time comes that I can only keep one, which one?
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06-22-2011, 19:00
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Which is better or more accurate? You tell us. You will get differing opinions. Keep whichever one you shoot better.
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06-22-2011, 19:24
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Originally Posted by Hokie1911
Which is better or more accurate? You tell us. You will get differing opinions. Keep whichever one you shoot better. 
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I agree.
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06-22-2011, 19:37
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Originally Posted by District18
If the time comes that I can only keep one, which one?
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Judging from you sig line, you'll have a bunch of Glocks to liquidize before you put have to put a 1911 on the choppin' block!
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You suck at...well, everything so far.
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06-22-2011, 19:48
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Originally Posted by District18
I own two 1911s, both purchased used. The first is a Loaded Springfield Armory Stainless. The second is a Colt Trophy Match. I'm a novice as far as 1911s go. Can anyone offer insight as to which is better? Which is more accurate? Which is more reliable? Are there any inherent problems with either?
If the time comes that I can only keep one, which one?
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Is that a Colt Gold Cup Trophy?
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06-22-2011, 20:09
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Is that a Colt Gold Cup Trophy?
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Yes. Sorry that's what I meant. Gold Cup Trophy.
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06-22-2011, 20:10
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Yes. Sorry that's what I meant. Gold Cup Trophy.
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I'd take that over a Loaded any day.
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06-22-2011, 20:16
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I'd take that over a Loaded any day.
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I agree. Never handled a Loaded that impressed me in the least.
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06-26-2011, 07:14
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Originally Posted by glock2740
I agree. Never handled a Loaded that impressed me in the least.
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Again, too vague. Why doesn't it impress you? Seems to be a cult nowadays.
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06-23-2011, 17:17
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I'd take that over a Loaded any day.
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+10 Colts may or not be some of the best but hold there value very well.
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06-24-2011, 20:17
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+10 Colts may or not be some of the best but hold there value very well.
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Yes they do
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06-24-2011, 18:45
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Originally Posted by bac1023
I'd take that over a Loaded any day.
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Me too.
(Loaded)
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06-24-2011, 20:17
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Originally Posted by Cobra64
Me too.
(Loaded)
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06-26-2011, 05:13
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Originally Posted by bac1023
I'd take that over a Loaded any day.
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yes, yes yes. all from a guy whose shot many highend 1911's. and this advice from a guy whose shot many low end 1911's. do they have their faults, of course. all manufacturing facilities do. it mass production. hurry, hurry, hurry. production schudules to meet. but the steel is better, less mim. and for those that don't believe that, google. and this advice comes from a lifelong colt fan whose owned 8 that were flawless since 84 or 85. can't say the same for others. yes they're other very good 19ll's being built, but i am a brand loyal colt fan and it's my first choice always in a sub 1000 gun. same thing for fords. i'm very brand loyal. not trying to start an arguement, jmo. and a certain guy named flipper, with 10 yrs expierence is not going to top a production colt. 10 yrs expierence does not a firearm genius make, or 20 for that matter. this country owes that man it's freedom you must read John Browning, American Gunmaker. fabulous read. don't get me wrong. im not the jealous type who can't afford a highend custom 1911. one at sacs and one a css. damn they are slow. if i could carry a high end it would be bear stinger and a 4in css.
name me more than a handful of shooters that can shot a 1" group at 50 yrs offand with a 1in guarantee, and i'll stand corrected. if i were to by a bear or wilson with the 1" guarantee. my 2 in groups at 40 ft serves me just fine in a defensive situation, as it does most folks. again, no rant, just the truth. and these truths come from almost 30 yrs of expierence, not 4 or 5 yrs.
please don't degrade this into an arguement. it's just my opinion. which we all know means squat. i bought a kimber pro carry that simply wouldn't funtion. sent it back twice. still, i'd buy another. it's just a bad one that got thru.
i l love colts and always will. 
waiting for the colt haters.
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06-26-2011, 05:32
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Colts are excellent 1911s, particularly when it comes to extracting and feeding.
Extracting money from your bank account and feed it into Colt's.
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06-26-2011, 06:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bac1023
I'd take that over a Loaded any day.
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+ eleventy billion.
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06-26-2011, 07:12
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Originally Posted by bac1023
I'd take that over a Loaded any day.
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Change your name to anti-springfield loaded. I really don't get why you go around bashing loadeds so often... and yes I've seen it at least half a dozen times. I have one and it looks fine and it's tighter than the springfield mil specs I've shot (friend's not my mine) and it's tighter/smoother than the colt series 80 I had and even the Colt series 70 I've had.
I remember you saying you handled a loaded before and it seemed loose to you. That's what I recall you giving for your reasons not liking it, aside from that you really don't seem to have any evidence, so I don't know what put the loaded turd in your pants. DOn't know it tell you shoot it and to go by one example that could have been poorly fitted seems too uninformed. Also was it a Brasil or Illinois assembled gun?
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06-27-2011, 17:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bac1023
I'd take that over a Loaded any day.
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yup, yup, and triple yup. it's no secret. under 1000 i love Colts. hell over a 1000 i love Colts.
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06-22-2011, 21:40
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I like my Springfield Loaded models, but if the Colt shoots even close to the SA, keep it, as it will likely have higher-quality internals than the SA.
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06-23-2011, 03:45
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The Springfield shoots very nicely. Haven't had an opportunity to shoot the Colt yet. The Springfield seems front heavy, the Colt seems to have better balance.
Should I put in a heavier spring in either gun when shooting hotter defensive loads like Cor-Bon or Doubletap?
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06-26-2011, 07:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by District18
The Springfield shoots very nicely. Haven't had an opportunity to shoot the Colt yet. The Springfield seems front heavy, the Colt seems to have better balance.
Should I put in a heavier spring in either gun when shooting hotter defensive loads like Cor-Bon or Doubletap?
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It's probably the full length guide rod. I shot my loaded next to a friend's mil spec and the loaded shot smoother with less flip because of the flgr I can only assume.
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06-27-2011, 16:07
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Originally Posted by iluv2viddyfilms
It's probably the full length guide rod. I shot my loaded next to a friend's mil spec and the loaded shot smoother with less flip because of the flgr I can only assume.
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Yep, full length guide rod. I'm guessing that's why it's so front heavy?
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06-27-2011, 20:14
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Yep, full length guide rod. I'm guessing that's why it's so front heavy?
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Yes, but unless you shoot them side by side, one right after another, it's such a small difference it would be darn near impossible to distinguish it, at least for me.
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06-23-2011, 07:43
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Yes, defensive loads require heavy spring. Gold Cups have VERY light mainspring and recoil spring.
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06-23-2011, 15:41
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Since you bought them both used it's hard to say. Some Gold Cups came with two recoil springs, one for wadcutter (ight) loads, and one for standard ammo.
If you can compare the SA and Colt springs and the Colt feels softer, use the SA recoil spring for ammo testing, or buy a new 16 - 18 lb spring.
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