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11-07-2010, 22:52
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SA or Kimber
I have been looking at 1911s for a bit now and recently shot a Springfield TRP. So the Epic debate. Whats a good quality 1911? I was looking at Springfield TRP or Kimber Warriors or TLE Full size or Pro size. All info is appreciated.
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11-07-2010, 23:56
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Go American Made! Check out a used Kimber Gold Combat.
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11-08-2010, 02:29
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Below $1000 I like Kimber, but from the TRP on up, I prefer Springfield.
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11-08-2010, 08:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bac1023
Below $1000 I like Kimber, but from the TRP on up, I prefer Springfield.
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I still need to get a TRP (amongst other things).
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11-08-2010, 19:12
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I still need to get a TRP (amongst other things).
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11-08-2010, 06:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AZ Husker
Go American Made! Check out a used Kimber Gold Combat.
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I love my series one Gold combat, awesome gun not easy to find
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11-08-2010, 18:21
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Originally Posted by AZ Husker
Go American Made! Check out a used Kimber Gold Combat.
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Brazil is in America too you know
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11-08-2010, 19:14
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Originally Posted by AZ Husker
Go American Made! Check out a used Kimber Gold Combat.
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I believe the TRP is built in the States.
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11-08-2010, 19:36
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If it were me, I'd save a few hundred and get a Baer TRS, CC. TRP's a nice, just not a $1300-1400 pistol IMO.
Between the SA and a Kimber, SA > Kimber.
If it is below the 1K mark, I don't think either is spectacular as far as parts quality or fit, but the SA is a 70 series and actually has good CS.
After the ordeal a friend went through with his Kimber and their CS, I will never recommend them.
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11-08-2010, 21:27
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Quote:
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I believe the TRP is built in the States.
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TRP is ASSEMBLED in the USA. Same Brazilian frame and slide as the others.
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11-08-2010, 02:35
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I am quite pleased with my TRP at the moment.
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11-08-2010, 05:46
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I think the TRP is as good or better than the upper end Kimbers, but I'd take any Kimber over all of the SA guns that are below the TRP.
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11-08-2010, 19:11
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Originally Posted by glock2740
I think the TRP is as good or better than the upper end Kimbers, but I'd take any Kimber over all of the SA guns that are below the TRP.
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A have to agree with Joe.
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11-08-2010, 06:16
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The TRP looks like a nice pistol, but I haven't shot one. I have owned a SA Ultra Compact Loaded and I was disappointed with it's reliability and accuracy. I put about 600 rounds through it and sold it off.
I've had nothing but good luck with my Kimbers (Pro CDP II and Warrior). I've got about 1000 rounds or so through the CDP and probably around 5 to 6 thousand through the Warrior, no problems to speak of. The Warrior is probably my favorite pistol, and one I would gladly take with me to the middle east, given the choice.
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11-08-2010, 06:21
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I've seen a Warrior used through several thousand rounds in practice and competition. It's running like a champ. I've not owned or know anyone (specifically) using a Springfield. But, I would not worry about owning a Springfield as well.
Sooooo, you'll be fine with which ever you buy.
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11-08-2010, 06:35
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I'd say the TRP, or save a few hundred and get a STI Trojan. If you want a 4"-4.25", I'd also look at the STI Ranger2 over the Kimber Pros. If you are deadset on a 4" Kimber, the ProTLE2 is a nice gun for the money.
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11-08-2010, 09:32
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The TRP for sure.
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11-08-2010, 10:00
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All nice pistols. Tie breaker for me was made in the USA. Custom TLE/RL II. 1000+ rounds. never a burp. It likes Federal 230g +P HST and 230g Gold Dots among others.
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11-08-2010, 10:29
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No contest. SA. Lifetime warranty and excellent customer service.
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11-08-2010, 16:55
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No contest. SA. Lifetime warranty and excellent customer service. 
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That is my advice. The Kimber may be "nicer" in cosmetic ways and ways that don't matter a lick. But the SA's are very good guns and you have SA to back you for a lifetime with no hassles.
Kimber Customer Service usually stinks to high HEAVEN.
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11-10-2010, 15:00
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Originally Posted by HAIL CAESAR
That is my advice. The Kimber may be "nicer" in cosmetic ways and ways that don't matter a lick. But the SA's are very good guns and you have SA to back you for a lifetime with no hassles.
Kimber Customer Service usually stinks to high HEAVEN.
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kimber cs certainly did for me. i should have kept the pro carry series 1. great gun. one of the more dumber things i've done. last pistol i sold as a matter of fact. from now on, i'm out of the selling business.
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11-08-2010, 10:34
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What's the difference between the Pro Carry HD and the Pro Carry TLE?
Sights...$202? Really......?
Edit: oh, front strap checkering?
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11-08-2010, 10:55
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What's the difference between the Pro Carry HD and the Pro Carry TLE?
Sights...$202? Really......?
Edit: oh, front strap checkering?
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You answered your own question. Night sights and front strap checkering are well worth a $202 upgrade.
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11-08-2010, 11:59
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You answered your own question. Night sights and front strap checkering are well worth a $202 upgrade.
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Agreed.
A different name entirely for sights and checking seems excessive, and seems to cheapen the strength of the brand's image...these should def be an option.
The TLE are also only offered in ACP, whereas the HD seems available in .38S and the non-steel versions can be had in nine.
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11-08-2010, 10:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wolf19r
I have been looking at 1911s for a bit now and recently shot a Springfield TRP. So the Epic debate. Whats a good quality 1911? I was looking at Springfield TRP or Kimber Warriors or TLE Full size or Pro size. All info is appreciated.
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No questiona bout it, Springfield TRP.
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