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Old 03-01-2010, 21:04   #1
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This is probably a sore subject for a lot a guys and maybe gals,but i have my 2 sons living with me and the ex moved out of state,her income is double mine and I still have to pay cs.This is after we both went to a lawyer and agreed that she wanted no cs from me and she would help with the additional bills i will incur.Well i have not seen a dime and barely getting buy.She quit a great job to take another out of state,her boyfriend also somehow landed a job in the same erea.I dont think she was thinking of her carrer when she made her decision to move away.Should i get a lawyer ? Any help would be appreciated.
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Old 03-10-2010, 10:45   #3
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If you have custody----she should be paying through the nose----my child support payment is more than my house payment---what's good for the goose is good for the gander and vice versa. I'm not complaining and see my youngster all the time---but whats fair is fair.
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Old 03-11-2010, 11:35   #4
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This is probably a sore subject for a lot a guys and maybe gals,but i have my 2 sons living with me and the ex moved out of state,her income is double mine and I still have to pay cs.This is after we both went to a lawyer and agreed that she wanted no cs from me and she would help with the additional bills i will incur.Well i have not seen a dime and barely getting buy.She quit a great job to take another out of state,her boyfriend also somehow landed a job in the same erea.I dont think she was thinking of her carrer when she made her decision to move away.Should i get a lawyer ? Any help would be appreciated.
YES....If you have custody and they stay with you the majority of the time you should not be the one paying CS. Do you have custody?, or do they just "live" with you? Either way you need an attorney.
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Old 03-11-2010, 12:18   #5
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definatly I pay more than what I think is my fair share. She should 2
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Old 07-13-2010, 14:17   #7
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A lawyer is definitely a good idea to protect yourself. What I have seen in my experience dealing with these issues is that the father tends to punished while the mother gets rewarded for mutual decisions. I've seen many times where the judge makes up case law instead of following what's on the books. While I believe that both spouses should pay their fair share neither party should have to live like a pauper because they can't get along.
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Men rape women.
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Unfortunately, you are correct. It is shocking to see that the Court System views every man as a deadbeat dad.

Now, if a woman rapes a man… Never mind. You cannot rape the willing and it may only be my fantasy.
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Sadly,........very true
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This is probably a sore subject for a lot a guys and maybe gals,but i have my 2 sons living with me and the ex moved out of state,her income is double mine and I still have to pay cs.This is after we both went to a lawyer and agreed that she wanted no cs from me and she would help with the additional bills i will incur.Well i have not seen a dime and barely getting buy.She quit a great job to take another out of state,her boyfriend also somehow landed a job in the same erea.I dont think she was thinking of her carrer when she made her decision to move away.Should i get a lawyer ? Any help would be appreciated.
Did your children want to move in with you instead of living with their mom, or did she turn over the custody to you?

You might want it in writing through the courts that the children will be living with you on a permanent basis.

If your kids are living with you and your ex is still receiving child support for the kids, then yes, you should talk with an attorney about how to get it stopped and how to start collecting it from her.

It sounds like she may owe you back child support as well. From the time, your kids moved in with you to present. It may be worthwhile to check in to that also.
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Old 07-13-2010, 15:26   #14
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Agreed ...

with Smokin above. The golden rule is to document and move it to the CSEA (Man Haters) with a lawyer (if you can afford it). I am currently unemployed (1.5 yrs now) with my UI cut off by the vote in congress and they raised my child support.

Here in Ohio men have very limited rights that get stomped on if not fought for. CSEA always trumps the court unless proven incorrect (they are never wrong ). CYA 100% of the time.

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with Smokin above. The golden rule is to document and move it to the CSEA (Man Haters) with a lawyer (if you can afford it). I am currently unemployed (1.5 yrs now) with my UI cut off by the vote in congress and they raised my child support.

Here in Ohio men have very limited rights that get stomped on if not fought for. CSEA always trumps the court unless proven incorrect (they are never wrong ). CYA 100% of the time.

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CESA (Man Haters). You got that right.

When my ex and I went to CESA, to take care of the child support, they asked me why I changed jobs. I told them the truth, I felt the company was not doing well and I feared I would loose my job so I found another one (which they did go out of business shortly after I left).

My new job at that time was a $1.00 an hour less. The caseworker asked my ex if she was okay with that or if she felt I should get a part time job to make up the difference. Unbelievable.

Last year I was on rolling layoffs. I am paid biweekly. When the Company would lay us off they would make sure it was just one of the two weeks, for a while I was only working every other week. They did this so that at least our medical coverage and child support would be paid without any gaps. This was somewhat cool of them.

CESA caught wind that I was getting unemployment. They wanted their share too.

I called the caseworker and talked with them. I told them I was not behind on the child support and I explained what was happening.

I told them that if they take out child support from my unemployment that it would be double dipping and that was not right. I got the “It’s in the best interest of the child” story.

Finally, after talking with a couple of people, they said they would remove the withholding order but would keep a close eye on it.

They act as if every dad is a dead beat.
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Old 04-25-2011, 21:45   #16
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To the OP, definitely go to court and get the money flowing in the correct direction. I have a guy that works for me that was in a very similar situation 20 years ago. The court ordered him to pay child support and soon afterward the kids came to live with him. He raised them up and didn't get money from his ex-wife to help. A couple of weeks ago we got a garnishment letter from the state of NY saying he owes $30k in back child support to her. We have no choice but to take it out of his check. Now he's in the position of having to beg her to go to court to undo the mess and he doesn't know if she will cooperate.

I have three guys that work for me who pay over half of their earnings in child support. I honestly don't see how they survive.

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As a business owner who pays unemployment insurance on behalf of employees in Ohio, I can assure you that unemployment insurance was not paid on your behalf by your employer for anything that Congress cut off. The unemployment "extensions" were never actually paid for with unemployment insurance funds. That's why Congress had to borrow the money to fund them. Sorry, but they cut off your welfare payments. I'm not trying to kick you while you're down, but be thankful for the earnings that were taken from others (or will be in the future) and given to you for as long as they were. It's kind of ironic that you believe your ex-wife isn't entitled to what you have to pay her but at the same time express that you feel entitled to the earnings of unknown strangers.
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It's kind of ironic that you believe your ex-wife isn't entitled to what you have to pay her but at the same time express that you feel entitled to the earnings of unknown strangers.
Well, I hate to break the news to you, but you missed by about 1000 miles. My UI was from NY (not Ohio) and I did not create the system. In fact I took my ex employer to the DOL for illegal termination (not lay off), and the DOL awarded me UI so, probably ought to do your research more carefully before blanket statements are made.

And BTW "No" she isn't entitled to it (the kids are) as she "went part time" during the divorce proceedings, the local county magistrate backed her up (she is a local offical, I might mention) by an increase in my support due to 3yr standard of living calculations combining her full time earnings with mine. Thats fair, right?

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Well, I hate to break the news to you, but you missed by about 1000 miles. My UI was from NY (not Ohio) and I did not create the system. In fact I took my ex employer to the DOL for illegal termination (not lay off), and the DOL awarded me UI so, probably ought to do your research more carefully before blanket statements are made.
Actually, you missed the point. It doesn't matter OH or NY. I never said the you were not entitled to your initial unemployment. The unemployment "extensions" that the federal government was paying out were never funded by unemployment insurance paid for by you or your employer. Since the money wasn't being funded from unemployment insurance funds, it had to come from somewhere else. That somewhere else is the earnings of others (taxes) or it was borrowed (future taxes). You stated that "my UI cut off by the vote in congress". Reality is that they just stopped paying you money that you were not really entitled to get to begin with. Be thankful that your fellow Americans gave you the extra "extension" money to begin with. Certainly don't act like you've been done wrong when you were the one that received the handout.
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Old 11-29-2010, 17:19   #19
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I'm still owed about 30 g's in back support and one of my kids in almost 30. I had full physical and legal custody of my two kids. I caused so much flack when my ex was not paying that I managed to get a conference call between the state child support people and my Senator's office. It lit a fire under the child support people.

Yes, fight it. If you have custody then it sounds like she owes you back support.
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Old 12-03-2010, 21:45   #20
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Yeah. I think you should.
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