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Old 01-13-2010, 17:10   #1
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Where are all the primers?

Anyone willing to share where you purchase primers in bulk? Everywhere I look (primarily Internet sales) I can't find 'em. Everyone stays sold out. (Local shops have very few and typically charge a lot for 1k.) My reloading and practice is suffering! Can anyone help? PMs welcome if your not willing to share with the Glock Talk masses. Thanks in advance!

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Old 01-13-2010, 17:15   #2
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It's not a real secret, you just can't be picky on brand... Wolf seems to be the brand that gets restocked the most frequently right now...

Wideners, Powder Valley, Natchezss, Grafs.. Get in line and wait is about all you can do.

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Old 01-13-2010, 17:16   #3
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Good luck!

Wideners had some Wolf primers when I looked last week. From what I have seen primers are still pretty iffy. I had a few thousand put back last year, and have not bought any in a long time. If it keeps up much longer we're all going to be shooting airsoft and paintball guns! Two years ago, between IDPA matches and practice I was regularly shooting 700-1000 rds. of .45 ACP a month, now I shoot one match a month and total 200-250 rds. a month, it sucks!
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Old 01-13-2010, 17:18   #4
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According to Widners web site they have CCI large and small rifle, PMC small pistol, and Wolf large pistol, small rifle, small rifle magnum, large rifle, and large rifle magnum.
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Log on to the various sites and put your name in line or sign up for email reminders when it comes in stock.

I put my name in December of 2008 and got 10K of small pistol in April of 2009. I shoot about 500 to 800 rounds a month and am already into my second sleeve. Ordered another 10K early 2009 so I have a little under 15K on hand. When I break the second 10K I will order another 20K.

If you buy on a back order status you will get them eventually, so order enough to make it worth while.
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Old 01-13-2010, 17:32   #6
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I know primers are a little spendy but if you want to get quantity, you have to order quantity. The odds are that you won't get them all at once any way. The average wait can be from 1.5 months to 5+ months depending upon the pecking order.

Order at least 10,000 of any one type, more if you can. I guarantee you can sell all the ones you dont shoot. Last time I looked I was somewhere over 700,000 on order from three different suppliers.

If the grid goes down, or there is a huge tax on them, the ones that you have may be the last ones you WILL have! Follow up your order with more orders. You can always say; no thank's and turn the order away before they are shipped if you work with the right suppliers.
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Old 01-13-2010, 17:53   #7
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Last time I looked I was somewhere over 700,000 on order from three different suppliers.
700,000.

Now that's called hedging your bets...
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Old 01-13-2010, 18:42   #8
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I don't know. Just don't look in my closet.

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Order at least 10,000 of any one type, more if you can. I guarantee you can sell all the ones you dont shoot. Last time I looked I was somewhere over 700,000 on order from three different suppliers.
And this is why there is a shortage. Why would anyone need 700,000 primers? I admit to owning 20k but 700K is beyond the pale for a non dealer.
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And this is why there is a shortage. Why would anyone need 700,000 primers? I admit to owning 20k but 700K is beyond the pale for a non dealer.
Either he's stocking up for the next 50 years or so or he's going to cancel most of the orders once he has the amount he wants.

I suspect the latter, but the former is always a possibility!
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Order at least 10,000 of any one type, more if you can. I guarantee you can sell all the ones you dont shoot. Last time I looked I was somewhere over 700,000 on order from three different suppliers..
LOL... That's 700 boxes of primers. At an average of $30 a box, thats 21k.

I sure hope they don't start dinging your credit card before you have a chance to cancel..lol...

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I know primers are a little spendy but if you want to get quantity, you have to order quantity. The odds are that you won't get them all at once any way. The average wait can be from 1.5 months to 5+ months depending upon the pecking order.

Order at least 10,000 of any one type, more if you can. I guarantee you can sell all the ones you dont shoot. Last time I looked I was somewhere over 700,000 on order from three different suppliers.
That's just ridiculous. That's about $17500 (plus shipping and hazmat). OTOH, if you actually took delivery of them and paid a reasonable price, it's probably one of the safer investments you can make. Does anyone foresee primer prices falling?
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That's just ridiculous. That's about $17500 (plus shipping and hazmat). OTOH, if you actually took delivery of them and paid a reasonable price, it's probably one of the safer investments you can make. Does anyone foresee primer prices falling?
Ask the people at the gun shows with tables full of $70/1000 primers.
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Ask the people at the gun shows with tables full of $70/1000 primers.
Those are the same sorts of idiots who kept their "hicap" mags at 2002 prices years after the AWB sunset.
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Those are the same sorts of idiots who kept their "hicap" mags at 2002 prices years after the AWB sunset.
That is because they were idiots who purchased those same mags at inflated prices to start with. They needed to sell them at that price just to break even on their investment.
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Those are the same sorts of idiots who kept their "hicap" mags at 2002 prices years after the AWB sunset.
Without a doubt.

They also have stupid prices on tables full of 22lr.
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That's just ridiculous. That's about $17500 (plus shipping and hazmat). OTOH, if you actually took delivery of them and paid a reasonable price, it's probably one of the safer investments you can make. Does anyone foresee primer prices falling?
Yes, once Osama is out of office. Without dragging political issues into the Reloading forum.. I think the current crisis of ammo and reloading supplies is strictly based on fear of our current leader.

Case in point.. Another, non-gun forum that I am a member of(but use my IndyGunFreak handle), I've had a friend on there for 3-4yrs. We've never met, but we've corresponded for a while and I would consider him a friend. He's in NJ, and although he is conservative on almost every issue there is, he was fairly left on the gun issue. I lost touch with him over much of last year, as his wife dealt w/ some health issues. About a week ago, he sends me a message, and wanted to get my opinion on some different firearms he'd looked at. To say I was stunned, is an understatement. He apparently has already taken a "no fire" safety class, and had a friend who was taking him to the range to shoot some weapons. I told him to shoot the guns he has and get back to me with what he liked, and I'd give him some opinions.

We've hashed out the gun control debate before, so this was a surprise. He told me the current administration has him absolutely terrified. Wait till he sees what the State of NJ has done to castrate gun owners.. he might just exodus to PA..

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Yes, once Osama is out of office. Without dragging political issues into the Reloading forum.. I think the current crisis of ammo and reloading supplies is strictly based on fear of our current leader.

Case in point.. Another, non-gun forum that I am a member of(but use my IndyGunFreak handle), I've had a friend on there for 3-4yrs. We've never met, but we've corresponded for a while and I would consider him a friend. He's in NJ, and although he is conservative on almost every issue there is, he was fairly left on the gun issue. I lost touch with him over much of last year, as his wife dealt w/ some health issues. About a week ago, he sends me a message, and wanted to get my opinion on some different firearms he'd looked at. To say I was stunned, is an understatement. He apparently has already taken a "no fire" safety class, and had a friend who was taking him to the range to shoot some weapons. I told him to shoot the guns he has and get back to me with what he liked, and I'd give him some opinions.

We've hashed out the gun control debate before, so this was a surprise. He told me the current administration has him absolutely terrified. Wait till he sees what the State of NJ has done to castrate gun owners..
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Without dragging political issues into the Reloading forum.. I think the current crisis of ammo and reloading supplies is strictly based on fear of our current leader.
The "obama effect" has been the cause of all the ammo shortages. And still is. Ruger, S&W, and other gun makers have all had records sales. Obama has been the top salesman at all the gun stores. Although he has not done any gun related stuff, he is on record that he thinks citizens should not own guns.

Many folks remember what happened in 1993 under clinton and they don't want to be caught without ammo. Some also fear that they may need to defend themselves against.....
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If the grid goes down, or there is a huge tax on them, the ones that you have may be the last ones you WILL have!
Just another reason to join the NRA. Why do you think the corrupt politicians aren't bringing up gun control (or ammo control) now? They have the senate and house on their side and could pass anything they want. Because a good number of them know that more gun laws would be the end of their political career. Even the most rabid anti-gun politicians like schumer and feinstein are keeping quiet on this one.

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PRIMER AVAILABILITY ALERT
The Tooth Fairy announced today that because of the scarcity and elevated cost of primers he is going to change his age old tradition of leaving money under a pillow for lost teeth.

My Fairy states that henceforth he will leave one brick of primers for each tooth lost by a qualified reloader. He also states that logistical complications prohibit him from guaranteeing specific primer brands or sizes.

When asked if he thought the change in policy would be popular Mr. Fairy smiled with a mouthful of pearly whites and replied; "I think a lot of reloaders are going to develop a fondness for soup."


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