Three new 9's installed with similar results---they all make a pile about a foot away at 4:00 o'clock. The 19 was the exception in that it put 2 out the front about 11:00 o'clock and one in my shirt pocket about 7:00 o'clock. Mostly pleased---more rounds down range may help, but overall satisfied--  
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NRA Range Officer, Glock Armorer quals, expired since 2K--guess I know nothing about them any more--- G17--Gen 1, G19--Gen 3, G23--Gen 3, G22--Gen 3 RTF2 ))))))) ....Other guns too numerous to list..... 
The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. 
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