View Single Post
Old 10-16-2012, 10:19   #9
Disregarded9-side
Armchair IPSCer
 
Disregarded9-side's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 1,037
Quote:
Originally Posted by TTM65 View Post
I by no means wish to start a fight but am asking because I do not understand why people buy a gun knowing they are going to have to dump a fair amount into it just to get it to run reliably. This gun is an example of what I mean.
SA Loaded approx 900.00 then
after a trip back to Illinois, then lot of experimentation, extractor adjustment, new parts, fitting and filing and now it runs like a champ.
Then a few hundred in the forthcoming hammer and strut, FPS, grip safety, slide stop, and thumb safety.
Why not just purchase a quality built gun to start with?
As the OP and the purchaser, I couldn't agree more with your point about buying a reliable pistol to begin with.

The problem and reality is that no 1911, certainly no sub-$1,000 '11, can be TRUSTED out of the box (I know this will solicit posts saying that "my RIA/Kimber/Taurus has 10,000 rounds through it and it's never malfunctioned", and I'm sure you're telling the truth; but even good manufactures produce bad pistols and getting the 1911 design reliable is more of an art than a science. Every one of them I've bought will not cycle consistently before being worked over.

I've achieved my goal of having a reliable 1911 for far less money than had a bought a semi-custom or full-house custom pistol. Yes, I could have spent $1,500 and probably gotten a much more reliable 'gun, but there would still have been a good number of MIM parts that I would want replaced, and others I wanted substituted for ones I simply prefer. My budget was $1K, and with an $801 purchase price and the refinements required to get it to function, I'm still under that (excluding the ammo; however, now that it's in working order, and because I reload, ammo costs are now less of a concern).

This ain't my first rodeo--I've been through a few '11s, none worked out of the box. I knew what I was getting into. I also knew I wanted a pistol that wasn't so valuable that I couldn't work on it, gaining some gunsmithing experience with the platform, and also beat on it at the range and for IPSC use; I'm a much higher volume shooter than most 1911 owners. It will be nice to always have one I can tinker with, even after I scoop the Ed Brown I've always wanted.
I started with a Kimber, figured I'd try the SA.

I also agree with your point about the market holding the manufactures to lower standards with regards to function--one should remember that 1/3rd of guns purchased in the US are never fired by the original owner, 1911s and other "pretty" 'guns probably rank high on the safe-queen chart.
Disregarded9-side is offline   Reply With Quote