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Old 10-06-2012, 11:53   #14
devildog2067
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Originally Posted by JuneyBooney View Post
If you have a liberal state it will be higher crime than a conservative state.
This statement irritated me enough that I actually decided to go count.

I looked at 2008's FBI UCR* statistics for violent crime (rates of violent crime per 100,000 people). I then compared against the list of states whose electoral votes went to Obama in 2008.

Your statement is wrong. Only 21 states are both "conservative" (went to McCain) and have crime rates lower than the national average.

Here's the complete list, divided into 4 categories.

States that voted Republican in 2008 AND have higher crime rates than the national average:

Alaska 654.4
Arizona 478.6
Arkansas 516.4
Georgia 496.1
Louisiana 658.4
Missouri 505.2
Oklahoma 539.7
South Carolina 726.2
Tennessee 721.6
Texas 508.2

States that voted Republican in 2008 AND have lower crime rates than the national average:

Alabama 465.7
Idaho 239.3
Kansas 415.1
Kentucky 306.6
Mississippi 328.7
Montana 302.0
Nebraska 323.3
North Dakota 200.5
South Dakota 300.6
Utah 225.6
West Virginia 300.4
Wyoming 245.5

States that voted Democratic in 2008 AND have higher crime rates than the national average:

California 503.8
Delaware 708.6
Florida 688.9
Illinois 560.0
Maryland 628.2
Michigan 522.2
Nevada 727.5
New Mexico 670.6
North Carolina 486.6

States that voted Democratic in 2008 AND have lower crime rates than the national average:

Colorado 344.1
Connecticut 306.7
Hawaii 272.5
Indiana 375.5
Iowa 298.2
Maine 119.4
Massachusetts 466.2
Minnesota 200.0
New Hampshire 166.0
New Jersey 326.1
New York 401.8
Ohio 385.1
Oregon 265.0
Pennsylvania 417.0
Rhode Island 252.8
Vermont 140.8
Virginia 258.1
Washington 332.1
Wisconsin 276.9


Notice that the largest group is the group of states that lean left AND have low crime rates.


(*UCR statistics are not available for Illinois or Minnesota in 2008. I looked at the state's published statistics instead. Illinois' crime rate is higher than the average by about 20%, and Minnesota's is lower by about 50%. Both went Democrat in the 2008 election.)
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