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G33 02-15-2008 09:10

Smith dates, model numbers and SNs.
 
There is quite some give or tolerance in all these numbers.
Let me say that the best way to get exact info is to get a letter from
Smith for about $30 on your gun.

That will give you the ship date, to where, the configuration as it left the factory and some other stuff.

For those of us where rough time is OK:

1. Smith has routinely used left over parts to build transitional models, short run orders and what-not.

2. SNs are issued in order sometimes. They have been known to go back and use fill numbers not used many years ago. Groan!

3. Mod numbers (M19-3 etc.) have often been know to be mis-stamped.
(I was so excited once when I called Mr. Jinks with a rare find and he said...shoot it. Nothing special.):faint:

4. All the books and notes and sheets of info we have out here are cobbled together the best we can determine.

5. Getting the year right on your gun is pretty good. IMHO

Enjoy.
:supergrin::wavey:

xtimberman 02-15-2008 09:21

Good to know. This could explain why a M-36 I bought NIB in 1976 dates by SN to 1967.

Thanks for posting this info!

xtm

G33 02-15-2008 09:42

Thanks Eddieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
:supergrin::wavey:

G33 02-19-2008 00:36

P.S. Guys, lot more stuff I do not know than I do know.
:whistling::supergrin:

Bulldog 02-19-2008 02:44

Hitting on your leftover parts comment, S&W has also had a history of mixing and matching parts. I had a Model 57 that was clearly built using a Model 29 frame. The "29-whatever" was over-stamped with a "57-0". :supergrin:

G33 02-19-2008 09:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bulldog (Post 9902615)
Hitting on your leftover parts comment, S&W has also had a history of mixing and matching parts. I had a Model 57 that was clearly built using a Model 29 frame. The "29-whatever" was over-stamped with a "57-0". :supergrin:

Exactly.
:supergrin::wavey:

CTW 02-20-2008 22:05

I have just purchased a model 37 with no dash and wanted to know what year it was made so the only way is to send 30 bucks to S&W?

chuck17 04-01-2008 19:26

The best thing that a Smith&Wesson enthusiast can invest in (besides a gun!)is a copy of the "Standard Catalog of Smith&Wesson," by Supica and Nahas. It is currently in the third edition and is the best compilation of information so far on S&W firearms. It includes several apendices, one of which will provide the best guess as to date of manufacture. It is not very expensive and can be purchased through Amazon ($26.39 with free shipping), or any bookstore. Get it and you'll be glad you did.

-Chuck

G33 04-01-2008 23:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by CTW (Post 9916482)
I have just purchased a model 37 with no dash and wanted to know what year it was made so the only way is to send 30 bucks to S&W?

Post SN with last three numbers as XXX.
We will look it up for you.
:supergrin:

G33 04-01-2008 23:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuck17 (Post 10206460)
The best thing that a Smith&Wesson enthusiast can invest in (besides a gun!)is a copy of the "Standard Catalog of Smith&Wesson," by Supica and Nahas. It is currently in the third edition and is the best compilation of information so far on S&W firearms. It includes several apendices, one of which will provide the best guess as to date of manufacture. It is not very expensive and can be purchased through Amazon ($26.39 with free shipping), or any bookstore. Get it and you'll be glad you did.

-Chuck

Agree.
:supergrin:

tous 04-02-2008 06:51

Go to http://www.armchairgunshow.com/

And get it direct from Jim Supica. No need to share money with Amazon.

G33 04-02-2008 08:29

There goes my commision!
:rofl:

falcon1 04-19-2008 14:10

I have just purchased a Smith & Wesson Model 15-4 Snubnose, SN 83K1XXX. Any information you can provide will be appreciated. Thanks!!

G33 04-19-2008 14:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by falcon1 (Post 10320303)
I have just purchased a Smith & Wesson Model 15-4 Snubnose, SN 83K1XXX. Any information you can provide will be appreciated. Thanks!!

1980.
M15-4 from 1977-82.
Change gas ring from yoke to cylinder.
2" from 1964-88.
:supergrin:

Dalton Wayne 05-26-2008 19:09

What year would a model 10 ser number 559y53 about what year shes an older one just curious
DW

chuck17 05-27-2008 18:55

"What year would a model 10 ser number 559y53 about what year shes an older one just curious
DW"

Hi-

Is that the number from the bottom of the grip? Is it stamped "MOD-10" under the yoke (crane)? After looking at the S/N appendix in the SCSW (Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson), "559y53" doesn't appear to be a serial number for a model 10, victory model, or a pre-model 10. The "y" in the middle is uncharacteristic of a Model 10 S/N. Is the "y" possibly a misread number? Is there a "C," a "D," an "S," or a "V" in front of the S/N?

-Chuck

Dalton Wayne 05-27-2008 19:10

Let’s try this serial number correction 559753 no other numbers or letters present.
Regards
DW

chuck17 05-28-2008 18:20

If it is a pre-Model 10, or ".38 Special Hand Ejector M&P," that serial number, 559753, is not finely detailed in the SCSW. It is narrowed down to 1915-1942, serial numbers 241704-700000. You could estimate approximately where it might fall.

You might pose this question on the S&W Forum at
www.smith-wessonforum.com
and get hold of an expert on early models, or someone who has a letter from S&W with a date of shipping of a gun with an S/N close to yours.

You could also send for a letter from Roy Jinks, S&W Historian, for $30.

armybass 09-04-2008 08:01

I just got a pre-Model 10, or ".38 Special Hand Ejector M&P" . My gun's ser # is 618XXX. Anyone got an idea on a date. I guess using the above post, it would be pre 1942?

hastymeridian 09-26-2008 03:22

Old Smith 5 shot revolver
 
My old S&W 5 shot revolver only has a 5 digit serial # {925xx}. Any ideas? It is quite old, I believe. It has no trigger guard, I think they call it a model 1.


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