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MCNETT 01-27-2005 00:36

Here are official gelatin results for all of the DoubleTap loads!
 
All of these tests were done using 10% ballistic gelatin provided by Vyse gelatin using all FBI protocols and 4 layers of denim and two layers of light cotton T-shirt in front of the gelatin.

DoubleTap 9mm+P
115gr. Gold Dot JHP @ 1415fps - 12.00" / .70"
124gr. Gold Dot JHP @ 1310fps - 13.25" / .70"
147gr. Gold Dot JHP @ 1125fps - 14.00" / .66"

DoubleTap .40 S&W Penetration / expansion
135gr. Nosler JHP @ 1375fps - 12.10" / .72"
155gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1275fps - 13.00" / .76"
165gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1200fps - 14.0" / .70"
180gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1100fps - 14.75" / .68"
200gr XTP @ 1050fps - 17.75" / .59"


DoubleTap .357 Sig
115gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1550fps - 12.25" / .71"
125gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1450fps - 14.5" / .66"
147gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1250fps - 14.75" / .73"

DoubleTap .357 Magnum
125gr. Gold Dot JHP @ 1600fps - 12.75" / .69"
158gr. Gold Dot JHP @ 1400fps - 19.0" .56"

DoubleTap 10mm
135gr JHP @ 1600fps - 11.0" / .70" frag nasty
155gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1475fps - 13.5" / .88"
165gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1400fps - 14.25" / 1.02"
165gr Golden Saber JHP @ 1425fps - 14.75" / .82"
180gr Golden Saber JHP @ 1330fps - 16.0" / .85"
180gr XTP @ 1350fps 17.25 / .77
180gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1300fps - 15.25" / .96"
200gr XTP @ 1250fps - 19.5" / .72"
230gr Equalizer @ 1040fps - 11.0" and 17.0" / .62" and .40"

DoubleTap .45ACP
185gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1225fps - 12.75" / .82"
200gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1125fps - 14.25" / .88"
230gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1010fps - 15.25" / .95"

DoubleTap 9X25
115gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1800fps - 10.0" / .64" frag nasty
125gr Gold DOt JHP @ 1725fps - 15.0" / .74"
147gr Gold Dot JHP @ 1550fps - 17.5" / .68"

For those who are asking, here it is!
-Mike

hollow10mm 01-27-2005 01:32

now if iam shooting the 10mm loads like the 165 grain gold dot out of the g-29 can i expect a little less expansion and a little more penitration? is that the norm?

coltrane679 01-27-2005 02:01

Good stuff, Mike!

Quick question--are you still planning some .450SMC (aka .45 Super) loads? They would be sweet out of my S&W 625.

agtman 01-27-2005 11:26

Mike: GREAT information and a big "thank you" for all the time and work you put into producing it! ;c

Tazz10mm: I'd ask that this thread get a sticky pronto, since it contains answers to penetration & expansion questions that get asked regularly here and on Caliber Corner about Double Tap Ammo, in particular the 10mm loads.

Plus, because Mike used the scientifically-accepted test media for developing the penetration & expansion data on DT 10mm ammo, it secondarily provides valid documentation pertaining to the issue of "overpenetration" when using DT's full-power 10mm HPs - those specifically designed and intended for defensive use against human assailants (i.e., the Nosler, Golden Saber and Gold Dot HP loads).

Thanks again, Mike! :cool:

MCNETT 01-27-2005 12:42

From a G29 the 165gr GSHP went 15.0" and showed expansion to .84" The petals were folded further back on the bullet fired from the G20.
-Mike

kestrou 01-27-2005 13:38

Excellent! ;f

kestrou

hollow10mm 01-27-2005 17:06

so would the 165 GD expand to like 1.0 and penitrate a little farther out of a g-29? i think iam gonna have to go with 165 GD.

i vote for sticky as everyone always wants this info.

a1b2c3 01-27-2005 17:16

Information much appreciated. Those results are better than I expected and why I carry your 10mm ammo on-duty.

maximum 01-27-2005 18:10

Mike, do you have any penetration results for the 200 gr BTB @1400 FPS?

Brasso 01-27-2005 19:11

I hope all the .45 is King crowd doesn't see this. There might be a DT 10mm ammo shortage.;f

hollow10mm 01-27-2005 21:25

the 230 grain GD out performs all minimum requirments for Hand gun cartridges for S/D it more than doubles its size and penitrates 3.25 inches past what is considered "atequite". with that being said iam going to use 165 grain GD in my g-29 it will expand to 1.0 and penitrate 15.5 inches, but it takes a LITTLE longer to open up out of a g-29 compared to g-20

bac1023 01-27-2005 22:26

This data is the reason I carry the 135gr load. It should deposit most or all of its energy in the BG without overpenetration.

nickE10mm 01-27-2005 23:13

Quote:

Originally posted by maximum
Mike, do you have any penetration results for the 200 gr BTB @1400 FPS?
i'll second that question!

mark77418 01-28-2005 10:37

These results are very impressive. The 200 grain XTP penetrated 19.5 inches. I think that is what I will use for carrying in the woods in my G20. Do you guys think that would be a good choice or do you think the 180 grain gold dot is better?

kestrou 01-28-2005 11:13

Quote:

Originally posted by bac1023
This data is the reason I carry the 135gr load. I should deposit most or all of its energy in the BG without overpenetration.
I'm with you brother - thats what I'm packing right now too! ^c

kestrou

hollow10mm 01-28-2005 14:16

go with the xtp.

Chainsaw Maniac 01-29-2005 00:59

In the woods? XTP for sure. McNett recommends it for animals up to 400 pounds. Gold Dot opens up too quickly as a hunting round.

Steve A 01-29-2005 08:19

Any pics?

sparky315 01-29-2005 16:23

Excellent, Mike! Are those .45 loadings standard pressure? I've never been a fan of bullets lighter than 230, but I might have to switch from the Ranger T to your 200-grain GD load.

Never mind on the pressure question, I looked at some other threads and found the answer.

PaleGreenHorse 01-30-2005 05:03

All this Gello talk should have made this thread "Sticky" by now. ^c


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