Speer Gold Dot vs. Double Tap
 

Hey all,

does anyone know the difference between factory Speer Gold Dot and Double Tap Gold Dot as far as velocity f.p.s and ft. lbs. energy, if any??? thanks in advance:)

Double Tap:
3.5" barrel - 1415fps
4.5" barrel - 1525fps

Speer:
4.0" barrel - 1350fps

Both have the same Gold Dot Bullet

Exactly!
-Mike

Years of Speer...Now carry the DT.;f

I consider that a more than sufficient recommendation...

;J ;C

Just ordered a box of Gold Dots from Double Tap, cant wait to try them out, thanks:)

:( May have to try these! I have carried the Speers for quite awhile! ;P Ummm! Where do you guys get them?;Q

Nevermind! Just found the address in MCNETT's post!;a Oops! Caught your post a second late Bruce!;P

I just ordered some double tap, I got a box of the gold dot and a box of the FMJ to try it out. Should be here in a week, I also have speer gold dots and I just got a box of Federal 125 JHP. When I get the double tap I plan on doing a side by side test, I have access to a chronograph, and plan on hitting some phone books, water jugs, ply wood and anything else we can think of. I have not seen any yet but does Remington, Winchester, PMC or anyone else make 125's ( or anything else for that matter) for the 357 sig which is readily available? The more I have the more I shall test to see which performs "best". Yes a highly subjective term, I should say which one I am personally happiest and most confident with. Oh I will be shooting them out of a G33, I just ordered a 40 conversion barrel for it but I don't know how much use I will be getting out of it, probably just go shoot some and say, see how much "better" it is in 357 !! Or if I am feeling cheap and want to pick up some cheap ammo.
What are all your thoughts....

Assuming you mean FMJ also...

Winchester makes 357Sig in the white box, Remington makes it in the UMC yellow box, and PMC has some as well (and I believe all three make JHPs as well).

T Earl,

Here's a partial list of what's out there:


1.) Alabama Ammo Inc. - 125g - JHP
**2.) Atlanta Arms & Ammo - 124g - FP TCJ (RL)
3.) Bitterroot Valley Ammunition - 125g - JHP
4.) Buffalo Bore - 125g - FMJ
5.) Buffalo Bore - 125g - JHC
6.) Buffalo Bore - 125g - Barnes TAC-XP
**7.) CCI Speer Blazer - 125g - TMJ
8.) CCI Speer Lawman -125g - TMJ
9.) CCI Speer Lawman RHT - 100g - frangible
10.) CCI Speer Gold Dot - 125g - GDHP (23918 and 53918)
11.) CCI Speer LE Gold Dot - 125g - GDHP (54234)
12.) CCI Speer Lawmen - 125g - TMJCF (clean-fire)
**13.) Collins Cartridge Comp. - 125g - FMJ (RL)
14.) Corbon - 115g - JHP
15.) Corbon - 125g - JHP
16.) Corbon DPX- 125g - DPX
17.) Corbon Pow'R Ball - 100gr - PB
**18.) Corbon BeeSafe - 91g - BS
**19.) CNC Cartridge - 124g - FMJ
**20.) CNC Cartridge - 124g - JHP
**21.) CNC Cartridge - 102g golden sabre - JHP
22.) Dead Zero Ammunition - 125g - XTP
23.) DFA - 85g - Nylon ( lead free )
24.) DoubleTap - 125g - JHP
25.) DoubleTap - 125g - FMJ
26.) DoubleTap - 115g - JHP
27.) DoubleTap - 147g - JHP
28.) DoubleTap - 147g - FMJ
29.) DoubleTap - 80g - Barnes TAC-XP
30.) DoubleTap - 115g - Barnes TAC-XP
31.) DoubleTap - 115g - Nosler JHP
32.) DoubleTap - 180g - WFNGC hardcast
33.) Extreme Shock Air Freedom - 85gr - AF
34.) Extreme Shock Enhanced Penetration - 115g -frangible
**35.) Extreme Shock - 90g - FFJHP
36.) Extreme Shock - 124g - FFJHP
37.) Extreme Shock-90g-JPT-(lead free-frangible)
38.) Federal American Eagle - 125g - FMJ
39.) Federal - 125g - FMJ
40.) Federal - 125g - JHP
**41.) Federal - 150g - JHP
42.) Federal - 100g - CC BallistiClean
43.) Federal - 125g - HSTJHP
44.) Federal - 125g - THP (Tactical HP - bonded)
45.) Fiocchi - 124g - FMJ
46.) Fiocchi - 124g -XTPHP
47.) Fiocchi - 100g - SFN frangible
48.) Glaser - Blue - 80g - Safety Slug
49.) Glaser - Silver - 80g - Safety Slug
50.) Georgia Arms - 125g - FMJ
51.) Georgia Arms - 125g - GDHP
52.) Good To Go Ammunition - 124g - FMJ
53.) Good To Go Ammunition - 125g - Barnes TAC-XP
54.) Grizzly Cartridge Company - 90g - JHP
55.) Grizzly Cartridge Company - 124g - JHP
56.) Grizzly Cartridge Company - 124g - FMJ-FP
57.) Grizzly Cartridge Company - 147g - JHP
58.) Hornady - 115g - FXT
59.) Hornady - 124g - JHP
60.) Hornady - 147g - JHP
61.) Hornady - 124g - TAP CQ
62.) Hornady - 147g - TAP CQ
63.) Hunting Shack Ammunition - 124g - PFP (plated flat point) (RL)
64.) International Cartridge Corp. - 100g - HP - frangible
65.) J&J Ammunition - 124g - PHP (RL)
**66.) Lancer Custom - 125g - FMJ
**67.) Lancer Custom - 125g - XTP
**68.) Lancer Custom - 125g - JHP
69.) Load-X - 124g - TMJ
70.) Load-X - 115g - JHP
71.) M & M Reloads - 124g - CPFP
72.) Magsafe Ammo,inc. - 64g - Defender
73.) Maine Cartridge Company - 147g - JHP
74.) Master Cartridge - 125g - FMJ (RL)
75.) Middle Creek Shooting Supply - 124g - FN (RL)
76.) Military Ballistics Industries - 124g - FMJ (RL)
77.) Miwall - 124g - TMJ (RL)
78.) Parabellum Research - 125g - FMJ (value line)(RL)
79.) Parabellum Research - 125g - JHP (value line)(RL)
80.) Parabellum Research - 125g - FMJ (premium line)
81.) Parabellum Research - 125g - JHP (premium line)
82.) Parabellum Research - 147g - FMJ (value line)(RL)
83.) Parabellum Research - 147g - JHP (value line)(RL)
84.) Parabellum Research - 147g - FMJ (premium line)
85.) Parabellum Research - 147g - JHP (premium line)
**86.) PMC - 124g - FMJ
**87.) PMC Starfire - 125g - JHP
**88.) Precision Ammunition - 125g - JHP
**89.) Precision Ammunition - 100g - copper matrix NTF (non-toxic frangible)
90.) Precision Cartridge Inc - 125g - FMJ (RL)
91) Precision Cartridge Inc - 100g -RNFP - frangible (RL)
92.) Precision One Ammunition - 125g - FMJ
**93.) Pro-Load - 125g - JHP
94.) Prvi Partizan - 125g - FPJ
95.) RBCD - 60g - TFSP (total fragmenting soft point)
96.) Reeds's Ammo & Research - 90g - XTP
97.) Reeds's Ammo & Research - 115g - XTP
98.) Reeds's Ammo & Research - 124g - XTP
99.) Reeds's Ammo & Research - 147g - XTP
100.) Reed's Ammo & research - 124g - Gold Sabre
101.) Remington - 125g - JHP
102.) Remington Gold Sabre - 125g - BJHP
103.) Remington Disintegrator - 104g plated frangible
104.) SBR - 124g - FMJ SRVT (short range visible tracer)
105.) SBR - 124r - FMJ ERVT (extended range visible tracer)
106.) SBR - 147g - TCJ (Southern Ballistics Research)
107.) Sellier & Belliot - 140g - FMJ
108.) Sillman Cartridge Company - 147g - FMJ
**109.) Triton - 115g - JHP
**110.) Triton - 125g - JHP
**111.) Triton - 135g - JHP
112.) Ultramax - 125g - FMJ (RL)
113) UMC - 125g - FMJ
114.) UMC - 125g - JHP
115.) Underwood Ammunition - 124g - HP (RL)
116.) Underwood Ammunition - 125g - GDJHP
117.) Underwood Ammunition - 125g - BFMJ
**118.) Wagner Acuswage - 125g - TMJ (RL)
119.) Webb's Brass Assets - 124g - FP
120.) Winchester - 125g - FMJ
121.) Winchester - 125g - JHP
122) Winchester - WinClean - 125g - BEB (brass enclosed base)
123.) Winchester Ranger - 125g - SXT
124.) Winchester Ranger - 125g - BJHP
125.) Winchester Ranger - 100g - SF - frangible
126.) Wisconsin Cartridge Corp. - 125g - FMJ (RL)

** - no longer manufactured
(RL) - remanufactured round





Links:

Dead Zero Ammunition
DoubleTap Ammunition
Reed's Ammunition and Research
Georgia Arms
Parabellum Research
Underwood Ammo
Wisconsin Cartridge

Maybe we should make a sticky out of this list as I seem to post it quite frequently. G33???

Pretty sure it's already out. :cool:

Right!! That whole section was cut and pasted from another ( much earlier ) thread... like I said, I seem to post this often.

Double Tap in .357 sig kicks ass.;f

Duh!

I have made the switch, too.

Looks like I'm gonna make the switch to Double Tap also.

Damn!! Wasn't too long ago I did my 200 round test with the Speers!!!;g :(

^2

Gold Dot
 

:cool: I've been using the Speer Gold Dots & Ranger SXT's for CCW rounds, but the DT looks interesting. Does anyone have the address to thier Website? Thank you, in advance. Have fun & stay safe! ;f ;f

;z www.doubletapammo.com

:cool: Thanks Bruce! Have fun & stay safe!;f

Went out today, indoor range shot holes in paper only.
Put about 1/2 box of Federal 125 grain thru the G33, shot real nice.
Put about 1/2 box of double tap 125 FMJ thru it, much more kick, can't wait to chrono it, shot real nice, very hot load !!!
Swapped out to the 40 barrel, put 50 blazer FMJ's thru it I think 155 grain. This was the first time I used the 40 barrel, and only the third time I took the gun out. Shooting the 40 at first felt like a bb gun, I was just comming off the double tap 357 remember.
Anyhow after that I swapped barrels back and put some double tap 357 gold dots thru it. Hello !!!!
After all that I picked up my 9 and shot some white box 115, now that was like, oh man is this even going off. I can't wait to chrono this 357 stuff and shoot up some things ( like phone boooks, cans of water etc. ) to compare the different loads. So far I love this thing !!

Above list updated...

Simply no comparison. I shot 2 boxes of Double Tap in my Sig 229, my 239 and my G32...it fed without a hitch and the accuracy and velocity are impressive. It felt like I had a real .357 S&W Magnum in my hands! When the weather gets nice I'll run some over my chrony...but for the time being all I can say this stuff is hot. Not dangerously so...but its potent stuff. If you have the jack and can afford to feed your guns a steady diet of DT, I recommend going to a heavier recoil spring. Speer GD loads pale in comparison!
McNett will be getting my order for 500 rounds at the end of the month!

Add me to the users that has switched to DT exclusively in my G33.